From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
Cc: mingo@redhat.com, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
dietmar.eggemann@arm.com, rostedt@goodmis.org,
bsegall@google.com, mgorman@suse.de, vschneid@redhat.com,
kprateek.nayak@amd.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
shubhang@os.amperecomputing.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] sched: fair: Prevent negative lag increase during delayed dequeue
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2026 16:24:10 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260422142410.GS3102624@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKfTPtBdKk+7aOxs7xz6CryFqJYNAmpTBq-NHfnjwn=rgwoDJg@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Apr 22, 2026 at 04:06:42PM +0200, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Apr 2026 at 15:39, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> > That said, on IRQ you mentioned that this wasn't quite good enough and
> > that your original patch is best.
>
> Yes, it fixes one case but breaks the other one :-(
>
> >
> > The trouble is, your original patch can update vlag (!se->sched_delayed)
> > and report it hasn't changed; because then vlag == se->clag, obviously.
>
> In the (!se->sched_delayed), we don't care because the entity is not
> enqueued so we don't need to place it with new vlag
I am confused more :-) this could be dequeue_entity() doing a normal
dequeue, in which case it very much is enqueued. We only delay for
!eligible, !special etc..
> > This invalidates the comment on the return value of the function. In
> > fact, it makes the function have a very non-obvious return meaning.
> >
> > So I'm a little confused -- what do we actually want this function to
> > do?
>
> I want update_entity_lag() to return true if we have modified the vlag
> of an enqueued entity. In this case we need to dequeue, place entity
> with new vlag and enqueue it.
>
> we don't need to test se->on_rq because update_entity_lag() is called
> for enqueued task only with delayed dequeue entity so
> se->sched_delayed implies se->on_rq
>
> In fact we should test :
> (vlag != se->vlag) && se->on_rq
> but && se->on_rq is useless
>
> That being said, this probably deserves a comment
But but, dequeue_entity()'s second update_entity_lag() call can have:
se->sched_delayed == 0 && se->on_rq == 1
Think dequeue of eligible or special or...
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-04-22 14:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-03-31 16:23 [PATCH v2] sched: fair: Prevent negative lag increase during delayed dequeue Vincent Guittot
2026-04-02 13:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-02 13:17 ` Vincent Guittot
2026-04-17 17:18 ` Vincent Guittot
2026-04-22 13:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-22 14:06 ` Vincent Guittot
2026-04-22 14:24 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2026-04-22 14:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-22 14:46 ` Vincent Guittot
2026-04-22 22:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-23 7:28 ` Vincent Guittot
2026-04-23 9:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-23 10:27 ` Vincent Guittot
2026-04-23 12:12 ` Vincent Guittot
2026-04-02 13:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-02 19:27 ` Shubhang Kaushik
2026-04-03 8:37 ` Vincent Guittot
2026-04-04 8:08 ` Shubhang Kaushik
2026-04-03 8:46 ` Vincent Guittot
2026-04-03 12:30 ` [tip: sched/core] sched/fair: " tip-bot2 for Vincent Guittot
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