From: David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>
To: "Ard Biesheuvel" <ardb@kernel.org>
Cc: "Eric Biggers" <ebiggers@kernel.org>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
"Neal Cardwell" <ncardwell@google.com>,
"Kuniyuki Iwashima" <kuniyu@google.com>,
"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
"David Ahern" <dsahern@kernel.org>,
"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
"Simon Horman" <horms@kernel.org>,
"Jason A . Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>,
"Herbert Xu" <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
"Dmitry Safonov" <0x7f454c46@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 2/5] net/tcp-ao: Use crypto library API instead of crypto_ahash
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2026 23:00:02 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260428230002.448bd8e7@pumpkin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <97b79659-5fa1-4085-8c2b-3140fb663acc@app.fastmail.com>
On Tue, 28 Apr 2026 18:38:51 +0200
"Ard Biesheuvel" <ardb@kernel.org> wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Apr 2026, at 12:10, David Laight wrote:
> > On Tue, 28 Apr 2026 08:34:47 +0200
> > "Ard Biesheuvel" <ardb@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 28 Apr 2026, at 03:24, David Laight wrote:
> >> > On Mon, 27 Apr 2026 10:27:24 -0700
> >> > Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Currently the kernel's TCP-AO implementation does the MAC and KDF
> >> >> computations using the crypto_ahash API. This API is inefficient and
> >> >> difficult to use, and it has required extensive workarounds in the form
> >> >> of per-CPU preallocated objects (tcp_sigpool) to work at all.
> >> >>
> >> >> Let's use lib/crypto/ instead. This means switching to straightforward
> >> >> stack-allocated structures, virtually addressed buffers, and direct
> >> >> function calls. It also means removing quite a bit of error handling.
> >> >> This makes TCP-AO quite a bit faster.
> >> >>
> >> >> This also enables many additional cleanups, which later commits will
> >> >> handle: removing tcp-sigpool, removing support for crypto_tfm cloning,
> >> >> removing more error handling, and replacing more dynamically-allocated
> >> >> buffers with stack buffers based on the now-statically-known limits.
> >> >>
> >> >> Reviewed-by: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>
> >> >> Signed-off-by: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
> >> > ...
> >> >> @@ -344,33 +444,26 @@ static int tcp_v4_ao_calc_key(struct tcp_ao_key *mkt, u8 *key,
> >> >> struct kdf_input_block {
> >> >> u8 counter;
> >> >> u8 label[6];
> >> >> struct tcp4_ao_context ctx;
> >> >> __be16 outlen;
> >> >> - } __packed * tmp;
> >> >
> >> > That looks a bit horrid.
> >> > I also had a feeling that the compiler sometimes rejects non-packed structures
> >> > inside packed ones.
> >> > Perhaps nest the whole thing inside another structure that has an initial
> >> > u8 pad and is marked __packed __aligned(4).
> >> > Then the assignments to the fields of 'ctx' will be known to be aligned
> >> > even when tcp4_ao_context is also __packed.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Agree with Eric that this has no bearing on this patch,
> >
> > true - just the in the same code.
> >
> >> but I'm not sure
> >> I see the problem here. 'ctx' will not be packed, and appear misaligned
> >> in struct kdf_input_block, but that would only matter if the address of
> >> the ctx field were taken and passed to a function taking a pointer to
> >> struct tcp4_ao_context (which would expect it to appear naturally
> >> aligned).
> >>
> >> Having a feeling about what the compiler sometimes rejects is not
> >> actionable feedback - could you be more specific about which problem
> >> you think needs to be solved here? Are you concerned about unaligned
> >> accesses when populating the struct?
> >
> > (It was 2am and the side effects of a cold were stopping me sleeping...)
> >
> > I tend to double-check __packed because it gets misused in places
> > where you really want the compiler to error implicit padding rather
> > than generate expensive misaligned access code.
> >
> > But I am sure I remember some build warning that needed __packed added
> > to the definition of a structure embedded in a __packed structure.
> > I don't think it was only the arm OABI (which pads structures to 2 bytes).
> > Historically this has never mattered (even the 'address of packed member'
> > error is moderately recent - well sometime in the last 20 years).
> >
> > In this case (and the ipv6 code) 'struct tcp4_ao_context' can just be
> > marked __packed.
> > Or, since this is the only place it is used, possibly just inlined
> > into 'struct kdf_input_block' - which may not even need to be named.
> >
>
> What would that achieve, exactly? You still haven't explained what is
> wrong with the code. Or are you really claiming that structs lacking
> the packed attribute are not permitted as fields in __packed structs?
My brain probably misfiled something :-(
David
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-04-28 22:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-04-27 17:27 [PATCH net-next v2 0/5] Reimplement TCP-AO using crypto library Eric Biggers
2026-04-27 17:27 ` [PATCH net-next v2 1/5] net/tcp-ao: Drop support for most non-RFC-specified algorithms Eric Biggers
2026-04-27 17:27 ` [PATCH net-next v2 2/5] net/tcp-ao: Use crypto library API instead of crypto_ahash Eric Biggers
2026-04-28 1:24 ` David Laight
2026-04-28 1:35 ` Eric Biggers
2026-04-28 6:34 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2026-04-28 10:10 ` David Laight
2026-04-28 16:38 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2026-04-28 22:00 ` David Laight [this message]
2026-04-27 17:27 ` [PATCH net-next v2 3/5] net/tcp-ao: Use stack-allocated MAC and traffic_key buffers Eric Biggers
2026-04-27 17:27 ` [PATCH net-next v2 4/5] net/tcp-ao: Return void from functions that can no longer fail Eric Biggers
2026-04-27 17:27 ` [PATCH net-next v2 5/5] net/tcp: Remove tcp_sigpool Eric Biggers
2026-04-27 19:09 ` [PATCH net-next v2 0/5] Reimplement TCP-AO using crypto library Dmitry Safonov
2026-04-27 20:01 ` Eric Biggers
2026-04-27 23:20 ` Eric Biggers
2026-04-28 16:26 ` Simo Sorce
2026-04-28 17:30 ` Eric Biggers
2026-04-27 22:55 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-04-28 0:00 ` Dmitry Safonov
2026-04-28 5:41 ` Ard Biesheuvel
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