From: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
To: NeilBrown <neil@brown.name>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
Trond Myklebust <trondmy@kernel.org>,
Anna Schumaker <anna@kernel.org>,
Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>, Jeremy Kerr <jk@ozlabs.org>,
Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
linux-efi@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-unionfs@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 04/19] VFS: use wait_var_event for waiting in d_alloc_parallel()
Date: Fri, 1 May 2026 02:11:32 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260501011132.GA3518998@ZenIV> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <177759308866.1474915.9708613530229799376@noble.neil.brown.name>
On Fri, May 01, 2026 at 09:51:28AM +1000, NeilBrown wrote:
> I saw this comment the first time I read this email, but I didn't
> process it properly. That code is wrong.
One in mainline isn't - d_wait comes from target, as it ought to.
> It only makes sense to
> __d_wake_in_lookup_waiters() a dentry that we know was in-lookup, and in
> d_move, that is target.
> This can only happen (I think) in nfs where nfs_lookup() skips the lookup
> for LOOKUP_RENAME_TARGET and leaves the dentry in-lookup. Other threads
> looking up that name will then block.
> After the rename completes that in-lookup dentry will now be unhashed
> but we need to wake it up so other threads can continue (and repeat the
> lookup).
>
> So we need
>
> __d_wake_in_lookup_waiters(target);
>
> in d_move. target, not dentry.
Yep.
> Thanks for flagging this,
>
> Also my testing has hit a problem with some sort of deadlock in the nfs
> server (so accessing and XFS filesystem). They are tring to unlink a
> file and are waiting in d_alloc_parallel() under reconnect_path.
> This is running generic/467.
>
> So better hold off this patchset until I have that understood.
Let's deal with d_alloc_parallel() first; it doesn't have to be tied
into the rest of patchset. Does the variant I've posted + s/dentry/target/ in that
call of __d_wake_in_lookup_waiters() trigger any problems in your testing?
If it doesn't, let's get that part out of the way - it makes sense on its own
and getting it into -next (I'm sitting on a bunch of fs/dcache.c patches, and
it would fit there nicely) would be a good idea.
FWIW, your "noblock" variant is a misnomer - it *is* a trylock analogue of
d_alloc_parallel(), all right, but it might very well block; on allocations,
if nothing else, and there's a chance of having that dput(dentry) in "wouldblock"
case coming right after the sucker ceased to be in-lookup and dropping the sole
remaining reference. Which may block on real IO, final dput() being what it is...
And I really dislike the "drop and regain a caller-held lock" games - we'd been
there many times and it had ended up with race galore again and again; see
https://lore.kernel.org/all/20250623213747.GJ1880847@ZenIV/ for one recent
example...
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-05-01 1:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-04-27 4:01 [PATCH v3 00/19] Prepare to lift lookup out of exclusive lock for directory ops NeilBrown
2026-04-27 4:01 ` [PATCH v3 01/19] VFS: fix various typos in documentation for start_creating start_removing etc NeilBrown
2026-04-27 4:01 ` [PATCH v3 02/19] VFS: enhance d_splice_alias() to handle in-lookup dentries NeilBrown
2026-04-27 4:01 ` [PATCH v3 03/19] VFS: allow d_alloc_name() to be used with ->d_hash NeilBrown
2026-04-28 2:10 ` Al Viro
2026-04-29 2:44 ` NeilBrown
2026-04-27 4:01 ` [PATCH v3 04/19] VFS: use wait_var_event for waiting in d_alloc_parallel() NeilBrown
2026-04-28 3:37 ` Al Viro
2026-04-28 11:18 ` NeilBrown
2026-04-28 14:22 ` Al Viro
2026-04-28 23:26 ` NeilBrown
2026-04-29 5:26 ` Al Viro
2026-04-29 17:07 ` Al Viro
2026-04-29 21:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-04-30 23:51 ` NeilBrown
2026-05-01 1:11 ` Al Viro [this message]
2026-05-01 1:39 ` NeilBrown
2026-05-01 1:45 ` NeilBrown
2026-05-01 3:37 ` Al Viro
2026-05-01 10:46 ` NeilBrown
2026-05-01 1:20 ` NeilBrown
2026-04-28 16:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-04-27 4:01 ` [PATCH v3 05/19] VFS: introduce d_alloc_noblock() NeilBrown
2026-04-28 2:22 ` Al Viro
2026-04-28 11:24 ` NeilBrown
2026-04-27 4:01 ` [PATCH v3 06/19] VFS: add d_duplicate() NeilBrown
2026-04-27 4:01 ` [PATCH v3 07/19] VFS: Add LOOKUP_SHARED flag NeilBrown
2026-04-27 7:43 ` Amir Goldstein
2026-04-27 8:47 ` NeilBrown
2026-04-27 9:05 ` Amir Goldstein
2026-04-27 23:51 ` NeilBrown
2026-04-27 4:01 ` [PATCH v3 08/19] VFS/xfs/ntfs: drop parent lock across d_alloc_parallel() in d_add_ci() NeilBrown
2026-04-27 7:49 ` Amir Goldstein
2026-04-27 8:48 ` NeilBrown
2026-04-27 4:01 ` [PATCH v3 09/19] ovl: stop using lookup_one() in iterate_shared() handling NeilBrown
2026-04-27 10:10 ` Amir Goldstein
2026-04-28 0:24 ` NeilBrown
2026-04-27 4:01 ` [PATCH v3 10/19] VFS/ovl: add d_alloc_noblock_return() NeilBrown
2026-04-27 9:40 ` Amir Goldstein
2026-04-28 0:34 ` NeilBrown
2026-04-28 4:35 ` Al Viro
2026-04-28 11:44 ` NeilBrown
2026-04-27 4:01 ` [PATCH v3 11/19] efivarfs: use d_alloc_name() NeilBrown
2026-04-27 4:01 ` [PATCH v3 12/19] shmem: use d_duplicate() NeilBrown
2026-04-27 4:01 ` [PATCH v3 13/19] nfs: remove d_drop()/d_alloc_parallel() from nfs_atomic_open() NeilBrown
2026-04-27 4:01 ` [PATCH v3 14/19] nfs: use d_splice_alias() in nfs_link() NeilBrown
2026-04-27 4:01 ` [PATCH v3 15/19] nfs: don't d_drop() before d_splice_alias() NeilBrown
2026-04-27 4:01 ` [PATCH v3 16/19] nfs: don't d_drop() before d_splice_alias() in atomic_create NeilBrown
2026-04-27 4:01 ` [PATCH v3 17/19] nfs: Use d_alloc_noblock() in nfs_prime_dcache() NeilBrown
2026-04-27 4:01 ` [PATCH v3 18/19] nfs: use d_alloc_noblock() in silly-rename NeilBrown
2026-04-27 4:01 ` [PATCH v3 19/19] nfs: use d_duplicate() NeilBrown
2026-04-27 8:42 ` [syzbot ci] Re: Prepare to lift lookup out of exclusive lock for directory ops syzbot ci
2026-04-28 23:16 ` NeilBrown
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