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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Jon Kohler <jon@nutanix.com>
Cc: Tony Nguyen <anthony.l.nguyen@intel.com>,
	Przemek Kitszel <przemyslaw.kitszel@intel.com>,
	Andrew Lunn <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	"intel-wired-lan@lists.osuosl.org"
	<intel-wired-lan@lists.osuosl.org>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next] e1000e: ethtool: add get_channels support
Date: Mon, 4 May 2026 18:26:35 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260504182635.39e1b7a6@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <D670011F-AA11-4AFF-A70B-4DFF03C5F049@nutanix.com>

On Tue, 5 May 2026 01:12:29 +0000 Jon Kohler wrote:
> > On May 4, 2026, at 9:06 PM, Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org> wrote:
> > 
> > On Tue, 5 May 2026 00:59:40 +0000 Jon Kohler wrote:  
>  [...]  
>  [...]  
>  [...]  
> >> 
> >> Perhaps, but I’m not sure that is a guarantee. A good relevant example
> >> is when I added get_channels support to enic, which supports all sorts
> >> of channels, so I don’t think EOPNOTSUP can be 100% consider reliable
> >> in that case. Meaning, if it just so happens that the original author(s)
> >> didn't put in get_channels, that doesn’t necessarily mean there is only
> >> one queue.
> >> 
> >> And in this case, there is an "other" queue as as well too, as far as
> >> I can tell, so the output is at least semi-interesting.  
> > 
> > Sorry I wasn't clear enough - if you have an actual, real life use case
> > why you need queue count of 1 to be explicitly reported - please explain
> > it and put it in the commit message.
> > 
> > If you don't - please don't send patches for the sake of it.  
> 
> Ah, ok, sorry I misread your message, this isn’t a patch for the sake of
> a patch. Long story short, we’ve got a user space part of our control plane
> that reads in the output of ethtool -l as part of some broader queue
> management code. On systems with an e1000e device present, this specific
> component goes into a crash loop as it expects all NIC(s) to at least
> give it some sort of output.
> 
> That crash loop is easy enough to fix to ignore unsupported outputs;
> however, my thought here is a simply defense in depth fixup, especially
> since the kernel patch is quite trivial.

Got it, thanks for explaining.

My concern is that if we are expected to always report channel counts
we're signing up for a major whack-a-mole with the existing drivers.
Most drivers don't implement it. The networking stack does report
the number of queues the device asked for via rtnetlink:

ip -j -d li show dev $ifc | jq '.[].num_rx_queues'

but in your case I'd personally lean towards user space fix.

      reply	other threads:[~2026-05-05  1:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-04 15:48 [PATCH net-next] e1000e: ethtool: add get_channels support Jon Kohler
2026-05-04 17:41 ` Joe Damato
2026-05-04 23:49 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-05-05  0:59   ` Jon Kohler
2026-05-05  1:06     ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-05-05  1:12       ` Jon Kohler
2026-05-05  1:26         ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]

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