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From: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>,
	Hari Mishal <harimishal1@gmail.com>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>, Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>,
	Kanchan Joshi <joshi.k@samsung.com>,
	Nitesh Shetty <nj.shetty@samsung.com>,
	linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] nvme: drop WARN_ON_ONCE on write_stream bounds check
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2026 16:04:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2026073049-improper-paparazzi-6be7@gregkh> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260730133726.GA2983@lst.de>

On Thu, Jul 30, 2026 at 03:37:26PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2026 at 03:18:21PM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 30, 2026 at 01:41:23PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jul 28, 2026 at 08:58:00AM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > > [... monster quote mostly dropped, please stick mail netiquette]
> > > > > but a debug setup you get what you pay for, and I'm really tired of
> > > > > all these totally stupid attempts to make WARN_ON the new BUG_ON.
> > > > > It is not, and that's for a reason.
> > > > 
> > > > I'm tired of it too, but again, if this can be hit by something a user
> > > > does, it ends up being a DoS on the machine :(
> > > 
> > > So let's kill parnic_on_warn?  Or tain the kernel when it is set so
> > > that anyone enaling it knows they have to keep the pieces when it
> > > breaks?
> > 
> > I know why the cloud-boxes want panic-on-warn enabled, as they are
> > cattle and want any potential problem to just reboot the box and keep on
> > going.  And Samsung likes it for their billions of devices for the same
> > reason (it's "safe" to reboot a phone I guess...)
> > 
> > So as much as I would _love_ to drop it, we seem to have real users.
> 
> Then at least add a taint to make it clear to them that they are
> getting themselves into trouble instead of trying taking the only
> useful debug tool away because of bad choices of a few.
> 

syzbot has this same issue, if it ever hits a WARN() output, it stops
and spits out a report.  See the long thread on linux-next about this
right now for a more recent discussion about this.

As for a taint, I'm not sure what you are asking here.  If panic-on-warn
is not enabled, wonderful, a WARN() will spit out a great debugging
message and everyone moves on just fine.

It's only the systems that have panic-on-warn enabled that need to worry
about user-triggered calls to that macro, and those systems know what
they are getting themselves into, including the huge number of CVE fixes
they then need to be responsible for backporting :)

thanks,

greg k-h

  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-30 14:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-25 13:51 [PATCH 0/2] nvme: fix racy access to FDP placement ID array Hari Mishal
2026-07-25 13:51 ` [PATCH 1/2] " Hari Mishal
2026-07-27 13:31   ` Kanchan Joshi
2026-07-27 14:22     ` Kanchan Joshi
2026-07-29 11:47       ` Hari Mishal
2026-07-30  5:11         ` Kanchan Joshi
2026-07-25 13:51 ` [PATCH 2/2] nvme: drop WARN_ON_ONCE on write_stream bounds check Hari Mishal
2026-07-27 14:24   ` Keith Busch
2026-07-27 19:19     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-07-27 22:51       ` Keith Busch
2026-07-28  5:15         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-07-28  5:18           ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-07-28  6:58             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-07-28  9:46               ` Keith Busch
2026-07-28 10:34                 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-07-30 11:41               ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-07-30 13:18                 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-07-30 13:37                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-07-30 14:04                     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman [this message]
2026-07-30 14:27                       ` Keith Busch
2026-07-30 15:02                         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-07-30 19:33                           ` Keith Busch

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