From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mail3-167.sinamail.sina.com.cn (mail3-167.sinamail.sina.com.cn [202.108.3.167]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8EB4D21CFE0 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2026 23:30:53 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=202.108.3.167 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1786059056; cv=none; b=GMJMihOsCz+zD0bXnaL7qNn4+CFgwiOBblaKg02DZ+7suFovF3An7MBh+tU02Wct8cyS+MsNO1kzFEMp2i2F8rG/aOIADCdeRQOmMXl1Q12M091wVa3dtSixhv4Q5O5JsAo/eqIOjM7Y59HASV/eK47VfsedgsT+1D/ZNKejVxM= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1786059056; c=relaxed/simple; bh=LLPIVZLkcDBEXmcY+m6qHFAz6hVv8iBq31NdOIuv73Q=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: MIME-Version; b=jSsdULzw90zyfZj+zDJhhXO0/nL/nOLIeVAtOkdNnDJm/xqDGOS2620Ajdd1ewqMjoTJjK6ps5ZqealiX9MnWLKKR9/rmKOmdKu++ENK2fKdkyRlGotCb8/ef6b85pJdHwQtWYtXCVsekaLXXxYTYpOEpZwG5G867imnUfPLApk= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=sina.com; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=sina.com; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=sina.com header.i=@sina.com header.b=ASYHGq1T; arc=none smtp.client-ip=202.108.3.167 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=sina.com Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=sina.com Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=sina.com header.i=@sina.com header.b="ASYHGq1T" DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sina.com; s=201208; t=1786059054; bh=LLPIVZLkcDBEXmcY+m6qHFAz6hVv8iBq31NdOIuv73Q=; h=From:Subject:Date:Message-ID; b=ASYHGq1Tyy5JrsLY9GS+XQqEvaFiWphLQ5JVW5slIvPsJzfWfprZHV2dA73rdkxtj 6fH5vN9WqsZ/umPOkHHjC2vtqniThVQbg1jmUN/rRnhgMO/eyqtPw6AMmp0zUkS0sO MAm6sKztiMH55GFjN4iU9/e+c4OUjB1IDCuGntOc= X-SMAIL-HELO: localhost.localdomain Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain)([221.216.154.155]) by sina.com (10.54.253.33) with ESMTP id 6A75190300000BF6; Thu, 7 Aug 2026 07:30:14 +0800 (CST) X-Sender: hdanton@sina.com X-Auth-ID: hdanton@sina.com Authentication-Results: sina.com; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=hdanton@sina.com; dkim=none header.i=none; dmarc=none action=none header.from=hdanton@sina.com X-SMAIL-MID: 5296506685417 X-SMAIL-UIID: DB663BE915C8410096AD3F36CA1047D9-20260807-073014-1 From: Hillf Danton To: Johannes Berg Cc: Slawomir Stepien , Aleksandr Nogikh , syzbot , syzkaller-bugs@googlegroups.com, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, syzbot@lists.linux.dev, Krystian Kaniewski Subject: Re: sysbot AI patches and wireless Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2026 07:30:00 +0800 Message-ID: <20260806233001.997-1-hdanton@sina.com> In-Reply-To: <8a0020fb5318ed645b0331d3790a75f83c0ee443.camel@sipsolutions.net> References: Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Thu, 06 Aug 2026 16:49:45 +0200 Johannes Berg wrote: > > It's definitely part of the job to train new contributors, and it's > actually very rewarding to see someone grow from first time contributor. > Sadly, now there's basically no "first-contact signal" that says "I care > about this more than landing this one patch". :-/ Getting a well-formed > (and well-argued) patch used to be worth something, now it's basically not. > Nope, who cares (LPC/Unix)? Is Linux helping make the earth a better place (for who/all)?