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From: Artem Lytkin <iprintercanon@gmail.com>
To: Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>
Cc: Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>,
	"Liam R . Howlett" <liam@infradead.org>,
	Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	Carlos Llamas <cmllamas@google.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Daniel Almeida <daniel.almeida@collabora.com>,
	Deborah Brouwer <deborah.brouwer@collabora.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] rust_binder: check ownership before using vma
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2026 22:48:08 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260824194808.216021-1-iprintercanon@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260218-binder-vma-check-v2-1-60f9d695a990@google.com>

On Wed, Feb 18, 2026, Alice Ryhl wrote:
> The plan is to introduce more vma
> abstractions to avoid this unsafe access to vm_ops and vm_private_data,
> but for now let's start with the simplest possible fix.
[...]
> (We probably still want to do both, but
> the vm_ops->close callback will be added later as part of the follow-up
> vma API changes.)

Alice, is that follow-up still on your list, or would you rather someone
else took it?

I'd like to add the missing pieces to kernel::mm::virt: a VmOperations
trait with open, close and fault, a typed way to install it together
with the private data on a VmaNew, a VmFault wrapper, and a PFN-map
typestate next to VmaMixedMap with vmf_insert_pfn_prot() on it. Binder
would then drop BINDER_VM_OPS and the raw vm_ops pointer compare and get
a close callback like the C driver has. Tyr needs the fault and PFN-map
half of that for its user MMIO mmap. The first two patches of
Collabora's Tyr series are the pgprot_noncached and pgoff helpers; they
have had no replies since 7 May, so I'd build on those rather than
duplicate them:

  https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260507-tyr-mmap-v1-0-eec048a23c25@collabora.com/

One design question first, for you and Lorenzo. f_op->mmap is
deprecated in favour of mmap_prepare, where a driver sets desc->vm_ops
instead of touching the vma, and the Rust side only has the old mmap
path today. Should the vm_ops abstraction be built around mmap_prepare
from the start, with a Rust mmap_prepare hook for miscdevice next to
it, or is landing it on the existing VmaNew an acceptable first step?

Artem

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-08-24 19:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-18 11:53 [PATCH v2 0/2] Fix VMA confusion in Rust Binder Alice Ryhl
2026-02-18 11:53 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] rust_binder: check ownership before using vma Alice Ryhl
2026-02-18 13:47   ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-02-18 15:54   ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-02-18 16:39     ` Alice Ryhl
2026-03-02 17:18   ` Carlos Llamas
2026-03-02 17:28     ` Jann Horn
2026-03-02 18:36       ` Carlos Llamas
2026-08-24 19:48   ` Artem Lytkin [this message]
2026-08-24 20:55     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-25  7:32     ` Alice Ryhl
2026-08-25  9:24       ` Artem Lytkin
2026-08-25 10:44       ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-02-18 11:53 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] rust_binder: avoid reading the written value in offsets array Alice Ryhl
2026-02-18 16:02   ` Liam R. Howlett

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