From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@amd.com>
Cc: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 06/15] virt: tdx-guest: Support TDI bind and unbind operations
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2026 10:54:50 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20261112145450.GM738765@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a2549a83-6acf-472c-9fd7-69e965707d12@amd.com>
On Thu, Nov 12, 2026 at 09:50:12PM +1100, Alexey Kardashevskiy wrote:
> On 12/11/26 10:05, Tian, Kevin wrote:
> > > From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2026 11:00 PM
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 11, 2026 at 09:44:42AM +0000, Tian, Kevin wrote:
> > >
> > > > The interesting case is about such failures after attest e.g. unlock
> > > > which is supposed to be a void operation. Maybe we don't need do
> > > > anything special in tsm core - the secure firmware maintains the
> > > > state machine so future lock will fail if the current state is not
> > > > unlocked.
> > >
> > > unlock can't fail, we have no way to cope with that.
> > >
> > > If unlock does not result in the MMMIO returned to host control then
> > > the system will surely MCE.
> > >
> > > This should have nothing to do with a crashed device, the disposition
> > > of the MMIO is under TDX module control, revert it back to host and
> > > accept you get AERs for the incorrect T= bit if the device isn't syncd.
> > >
> > > The OS would have to kill the SPDM session and FLR the PF to bring it
> > > all back.
> > >
> >
> > Agree but we were talking about different scenarios. Your description
> > is about real device hang, while mine is about unlock failure from
> > guest p.o.v. which can be caused by either hardware issue or host
> > software issues. Or a malicious host may report success w/o actually
> > doing anything.
> >
> > My point was that the guest can just assume unlock always succeed
> > and rely on the secure firmware to ensure future operations blocked
> > in case of incomplete unlock. We don't need to do anything special
> > within the guest tsm core upon GHCI unlock errors.
>
> If the guest asked for unlock() and the secure fw failed to do so
> and reported an error (which my hosts cannot hide), then the guest
> memory is still exposed (via DMA) to some unwanted thing. If
> anything - it is time to panic() imho. Thanks,
It is completely bad FW design. If you ask for unlock it cannot fail
in a way that DMA is still enabled. You should still clear the sDTE
and that should be a non-failable operation.
Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-11-12 14:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 127+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-09-24 4:10 [RFC PATCH 00/15] PCI/TSM: coco/tdx-guest: Implement TDX-Connect PCIe TDISP (phase2) Zhenzhong Duan
2026-09-24 4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 01/15] x86/tdx: Export tdg_vm_rd() for tdx-guest module Zhenzhong Duan
2026-09-30 22:13 ` Peter Fang
2026-10-01 12:38 ` Xu Yilun
2026-10-08 6:45 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-08 16:30 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-24 4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 02/15] x86/tdx: Add TDCM hypercall wrapper for TDX Connect Zhenzhong Duan
2026-10-13 14:34 ` Nikolay Borisov
2026-10-14 6:19 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-14 6:27 ` Nikolay Borisov
2026-10-14 7:22 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-26 0:33 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-10-27 3:28 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-27 5:49 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-10-27 6:08 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-29 2:15 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-10-29 7:34 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-09-24 4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 03/15] x86/tdx: Add TDG.TDI.RD module call " Zhenzhong Duan
2026-09-25 0:06 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-10-08 6:27 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-08 16:42 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-10-09 2:28 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-26 0:51 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-10-27 6:22 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-11-02 21:07 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-11-03 13:11 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-11-03 21:04 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-11-04 10:16 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-09-24 4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 04/15] virt: tdx-guest: Support devsec TSM for secure devices Zhenzhong Duan
2026-10-15 13:42 ` Xu Yilun
2026-10-16 6:42 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-26 1:12 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-10-27 7:20 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-09-24 4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 05/15] virt: tdx-guest: Add TDCM helpers and TEE-IO support check Zhenzhong Duan
2026-10-13 14:31 ` Nikolay Borisov
2026-10-14 6:11 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-26 1:26 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-10-26 7:13 ` Nikolay Borisov
2026-10-28 5:42 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-28 6:51 ` Nikolay Borisov
2026-10-14 12:52 ` Nikolay Borisov
2026-10-15 6:24 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-26 2:06 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-10-27 8:32 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-29 2:27 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-09-24 4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 06/15] virt: tdx-guest: Support TDI bind and unbind operations Zhenzhong Duan
2026-10-13 12:10 ` Nikolay Borisov
2026-10-14 3:06 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-14 6:32 ` Nikolay Borisov
2026-10-14 7:33 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-11-04 8:20 ` Xu Yilun
2026-11-04 9:03 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-17 18:38 ` Nikolay Borisov
2026-10-19 2:16 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-26 2:32 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-10-27 8:58 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-29 2:38 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-10-29 7:42 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-29 3:26 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-11-02 21:11 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-11-03 8:49 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-11-03 21:07 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-11-04 8:59 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-11-04 14:39 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-11-05 4:37 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-11-05 19:06 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-11-06 3:03 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-11-09 23:38 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-11-10 9:40 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-11-10 18:55 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-11-10 19:57 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-11-10 22:25 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-11-11 0:16 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-11-11 0:19 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-11-11 9:44 ` Tian, Kevin
2026-11-11 15:00 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-11-11 23:05 ` Tian, Kevin
2026-11-12 10:50 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2026-11-12 14:54 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2026-11-12 12:56 ` Xu Yilun
2026-11-11 8:04 ` Nikolay Borisov
2026-10-26 2:38 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-10-27 10:14 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-11-02 21:15 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-11-03 6:02 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-09-24 4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 07/15] PCI/TSM: Track Device Interface Report MMIO range index Zhenzhong Duan
2026-10-26 2:45 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-10-27 9:11 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-09-24 4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 08/15] x86/tdx: Add TDG.MMIO.ACCEPT module call wrapper for TDX Connect Zhenzhong Duan
2026-09-24 23:41 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-25 0:02 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-10-08 6:01 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-08 16:47 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-10-08 5:49 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-08 16:44 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-10-09 2:16 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-11-03 7:48 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-09-24 4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 09/15] virt: tdx-guest: Capture the TDI report during device lock Zhenzhong Duan
2026-10-26 5:04 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-10-28 3:23 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-11-02 21:19 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-11-03 0:36 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-11-03 0:48 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-11-03 1:26 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-11-03 21:11 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-11-04 8:08 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-09-24 4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 10/15] virt: tdx-guest: Set up and accept private MMIO ranges Zhenzhong Duan
2026-10-26 5:22 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-10-28 3:32 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-29 2:44 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-10-29 9:56 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-11-02 22:38 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-24 4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 11/15] x86/tdx: Add TDG.TDI.START module call wrapper for TDX Connect Zhenzhong Duan
2026-09-24 4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 12/15] virt: tdx-guest: Support Trust Device Interface (TDI) activation Zhenzhong Duan
2026-10-26 7:19 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-10-28 6:44 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-28 12:41 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-29 2:24 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-09-24 4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 13/15] x86/tdx: Add __tdcall_saved() helper Zhenzhong Duan
2026-10-26 7:35 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-09-24 4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 14/15] x86/tdx: Add TDG.DMAR.ACCEPT module call wrapper for TDX Connect Zhenzhong Duan
2026-10-26 7:39 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-10-28 5:57 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-09-24 4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 15/15] virt: tdx-guest: Accept default DMAR entry during PCI driver attach Zhenzhong Duan
2026-10-26 7:49 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-10-26 12:02 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-28 9:39 ` Xu Yilun
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