From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
josh@joshtriplett.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>,
dipankar@in.ibm.com, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
tglx@linutronix.de, rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
dhowells@redhat.com, edumazet@google.com, dvhart@linux.intel.com,
fweisbec@gmail.com, oleg@redhat.com,
bobby prani <bobby.prani@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 0/5] Expedited grace periods encouraging normal ones
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 21:07:47 +0000 (UTC) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2087898187.25.1435871266994.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150702192331.GP3717@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
----- On Jul 2, 2015, at 3:23 PM, Paul E. McKenney paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 02, 2015 at 06:47:47PM +0000, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
>> ----- On Jul 2, 2015, at 2:35 PM, Ingo Molnar mingo@kernel.org wrote:
>>
>> > * Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> > And it's not like it's that hard to stem the flow of algorithmic sloppiness at
>> >> > the source, right?
>> >>
>> >> OK, first let me make sure that I understand what you are asking for:
>> >>
>> >> 1. Completely eliminate synchronize_rcu_expedited() and
>> >> synchronize_sched_expedited(), replacing all uses with their
>> >> unexpedited counterparts. (Note that synchronize_srcu_expedited()
>> >> does not wake up CPUs, courtesy of its read-side memory barriers.)
>> >> The fast-boot guys are probably going to complain, along with
>> >> the networking guys.
>> >>
>> >> 2. Keep synchronize_rcu_expedited() and synchronize_sched_expedited(),
>> >> but push back hard on any new uses and question any existing uses.
>> >>
>> >> 3. Revert 74b51ee152b6 ("ACPI / osl: speedup grace period in
>> >> acpi_os_map_cleanup").
>> >>
>> >> 4. Something else?
>> >
>> > I'd love to have 1) but 2) would be a realistic second best option? ;-)
>>
>> Perhaps triggering a printk warning if use of
>> synchronize_{rcu,sched}_expedited() go beyond of certain rate might be
>> another option ? If we detect that a caller calls it too often, we could
>> emit a printk warning with a stack trace. This should ensure everyone
>> is very careful about where they use it.
>
> My first thought is that a storm of expedited grace periods would be
> most likely to show up in some error condition, and having them
> splat might obscure the splats identifying the real problem. Or did
> you have something else in mind here?
Fair point! So I guess your checkpatch approach is more appropriate.
Thanks,
Mathieu
--
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
http://www.efficios.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-07-02 21:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-06-30 21:48 [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 0/5] Expedited grace periods encouraging normal ones Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-30 21:48 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 1/5] rcu: Prepare for expedited GP driving normal GP Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-30 21:48 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 2/5] rcu: Short-circuit normal GPs via expedited GPs Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-01 10:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-01 13:42 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-01 20:59 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-01 10:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-01 13:41 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-01 13:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-01 14:03 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-02 12:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-02 14:06 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-02 16:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-02 19:35 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-06 14:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-30 21:48 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 3/5] rcutorture: Ensure that normal GPs advance without " Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-30 21:48 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 4/5] rcu: Wake grace-period kthread at end of expedited grace period Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-30 21:48 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 5/5] rcu: Limit expedited helping to every 10 ms or every 4th GP Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-30 21:56 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-06-30 22:10 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-01 10:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-01 13:45 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-01 19:30 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-30 22:00 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 0/5] Expedited grace periods encouraging normal ones josh
2015-06-30 22:12 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-30 23:46 ` josh
2015-07-01 0:15 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-01 0:42 ` Josh Triplett
2015-07-01 3:37 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-01 10:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-01 14:01 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-01 14:08 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-07-01 15:58 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-01 15:43 ` Josh Triplett
2015-07-01 15:59 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-01 10:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-01 10:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-01 14:00 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-01 14:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-01 16:17 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-01 17:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-01 20:09 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-01 21:20 ` josh
2015-07-01 21:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-02 7:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-07-02 13:58 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-02 18:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-07-02 18:47 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2015-07-02 19:23 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-02 21:07 ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2015-07-02 19:22 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-02 1:11 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-07-02 1:34 ` josh
2015-07-02 1:59 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-07-02 2:18 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-02 2:50 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-07-02 3:15 ` Paul E. McKenney
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