From: corbet@lwn.net (Jonathan Corbet)
To: Roman Zippel <zippel@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH/RFC] msleep() with hrtimers
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 08:42:34 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <21003.1184596954@lwn.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 16 Jul 2007 13:39:48 +0200." <Pine.LNX.4.64.0707161325040.1818@scrub.home>
Hey, Roman,
> One possible problem here is that setting up that timer can be
> considerably more expensive, for a relative timer you have to read the
> current time, which can be quite expensive (e.g. your machine now uses the
> PIT timer, because TSC was deemed unstable).
That's a possibility, I admit I haven't benchmarked it. I will say that
I don't think it will be enough to matter - msleep() is not a hot-path
sort of function. Once the system is up and running it almost never
gets called at all - at least, on my setup.
> One question here would be, is it really a problem to sleep a little more?
"A little more" is a bit different than "twenty times as long as you
asked for." That "little bit more" added up to a few seconds when
programming a device which needs a brief delay after tweaking each of
almost 200 registers.
> BTW there is another thing to consider. If you already run with hrtimer/
> dyntick, there is not much reason to keep HZ at 100, so you could just
> increase HZ to get the same effect.
Except that then, with the current implementation, you're paying for the
higher HZ whenever the CPU is busy. I bet that doesn't take long to
overwhelm any added overhead in the hrtimer msleep().
In the end, I did this because I thought msleep() should do what it
claims to do, because I thought that getting a known-to-expire timeout
off the timer wheel made sense, and to make a tiny baby step in the
direction of reducing the use of jiffies in the core code.
jon
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-07-16 14:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-07-15 22:42 [PATCH/RFC] msleep() with hrtimers Jonathan Corbet
2007-07-15 23:10 ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-07-16 10:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-16 11:39 ` Roman Zippel
2007-07-16 11:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-16 11:54 ` Roman Zippel
2007-07-16 11:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-16 12:05 ` Roman Zippel
2007-07-16 12:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-16 13:00 ` Roman Zippel
2007-07-16 14:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-16 14:32 ` Roman Zippel
2007-07-16 14:42 ` Jonathan Corbet [this message]
2007-07-16 15:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-16 15:43 ` Roman Zippel
2007-07-16 15:57 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-16 16:08 ` Nish Aravamudan
2007-07-17 4:04 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-18 17:53 ` Nish Aravamudan
2007-07-16 16:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-16 16:55 ` Roman Zippel
2007-07-16 17:46 ` Jonathan Corbet
2007-07-20 12:49 ` Roman Zippel
2007-07-16 14:11 ` Roman Zippel
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