From: Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>
To: Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>
Cc: LKLM <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
LSM <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
SE Linux <selinux@tycho.nsa.gov>,
James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
John Johansen <john.johansen@canonical.com>,
Eric Paris <eparis@redhat.com>,
Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>,
Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v14 3/6] LSM: Explicit individual LSM associations
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 15:39:26 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2122972.gxaeSjOpon@sifl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51F939BF.3010404@schaufler-ca.com>
On Wednesday, July 31, 2013 09:22:23 AM Casey Schaufler wrote:
> On 7/30/2013 3:08 PM, Paul Moore wrote:
> > On Thursday, July 25, 2013 11:32:11 AM Casey Schaufler wrote:
> >> Subject: [PATCH v14 3/6] LSM: Explicit individual LSM associations
> >>
> >> Expand the /proc/.../attr interface set to help include
> >> LSM specific entries as well as the traditional shared
> >> "current", "prev" and "exec" entries. Each LSM that uses
> >> one of the traditional interfaces gets it's own interface
> >> prefixed with the LSM name for the ones it cares about.
> >> Thus, we have "smack.current", "selinux.current" and
> >> "apparmor.current" in addition to "current".
> >>
> >> Add two new interfaces under /sys/kernel/security.
> >> The lsm interface displays the comma seperated list of
> >> active LSMs. The present interface displays the name
> >> of the LSM providing the traditional /proc/.../attr
> >> interfaces. User space code should no longer have to
> >> grub around in odd places to determine what LSM is
> >> being used and thus what data is available to it.
> >>
> >> Introduce feature specific security operation vectors
> >> for NetLabel, XFRM, secmark and presentation in the
> >> traditional /proc/.../attr interfaces. This allows
> >> proper handling of secids.
> >
> > Maybe I missed something, can you elaborate on this, perhaps even provide
> > an example for us simple minded folk?
>
> There are a set of facilities that (currently, at least)
> can't be shared by multiple LSMs ...
I should have been more specific.
Thanks for the explanation, but that I understand the problems of stacking
LSM/secids, we've had that conversation a few times now. The explanation I
was hoping for had to do with this sentence:
"Introduce feature specific security operation vectors for
NetLabel, XFRM, secmark and presentation in the traditional
/proc/.../attr interfaces."
Can you explain this a bit more? When I looked at the patch - and maybe I'm
missing something - I didn't see anything in /proc that dealt with NetLabel,
XFRM, and/or Secmark.
> >> Add NetLabel interfaces that allow an LSM to request
> >> ownership of the NetLabel subsystem and to determine
> >> whether or not it has that ownership. These interfaces
> >> are intended to allow a future in which NetLabel can
> >> support multiple LSMs at the same time, although they
> >> do not do so now.
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>
> >
> > ...
> >
> >> --- a/include/net/netlabel.h
> >> +++ b/include/net/netlabel.h
> >> @@ -407,7 +407,9 @@ int netlbl_secattr_catmap_setrng(struct
> >> netlbl_lsm_secattr_catmap *catmap, /*
> >>
> >> * LSM protocol operations (NetLabel LSM/kernel API)
> >> */
> >>
> >> -int netlbl_enabled(void);
> >> +int netlbl_enabled(struct security_operations *lsm);
> >> +int netlbl_lsm_owner(struct security_operations *lsm);
> >> +int netlbl_lsm_register(struct security_operations *lsm);
> >>
> >> int netlbl_sock_setattr(struct sock *sk,
> >>
> >> u16 family,
> >> const struct netlbl_lsm_secattr *secattr);
> >>
> >> @@ -521,7 +523,11 @@ static inline int netlbl_secattr_catmap_setrng(
> >>
> >> {
> >>
> >> return 0;
> >>
> >> }
> >>
> >> -static inline int netlbl_enabled(void)
> >> +static inline int netlbl_lsm_register(struct security_operations *lsm)
> >> +{
> >> + return 0;
> >> +}
> >> +static inline int netlbl_enabled(struct security_operations *lsm)
> >>
> >> {
> >>
> >> return 0;
> >>
> >> }
> >
> > Is it worth including a static inline for netlabel_lsm_owner() for the
> > sake of completeness? I haven't looked closely enough yet to know if it
> > is strictly necessary or not.
>
> I don't think it ever comes up, which would imply we don't need
> netlbl_enabled(), either.
Probably not, but I like the safety of having it defined. I guess that is why
I would prefer having netlabel_lsm_owner() defined here as well.
> >> diff --git a/net/ipv4/cipso_ipv4.c b/net/ipv4/cipso_ipv4.c
> >> index 00a2b2b..5ca352b 100644
> >> --- a/net/ipv4/cipso_ipv4.c
> >> +++ b/net/ipv4/cipso_ipv4.c
> >> @@ -1594,7 +1594,7 @@ static int cipso_v4_parsetag_loc(const struct
> >> cipso_v4_doi *doi_def, u32 secid;
> >>
> >> secid = *(u32 *)&tag[2];
> >>
> >> - lsm_init_secid(&secattr->attr.secid, secid, 0);
> >> + lsm_init_secid(&secattr->attr.secid, secid, lsm_netlbl_order());
> >>
> >> secattr->flags |= NETLBL_SECATTR_SECID;
> >
> > I still need to wrap my head around all the changes, but I *think* this
> > change may not be necessary since NetLabel isn't multi-LSM aware at the
> > moment. If this change is necessary, then there are likely other changes
> > that need to be made as well, the NetLabel LSM cache would be my main
> > concern.
>
> Using the NetLabel secid slot is necessary because when we get into
> the auditing code the secid needs to be in the right place to associate
> it with the right LSM.
Fair enough.
--
paul moore
www.paul-moore.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-07-31 19:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-07-25 18:22 [PATCH v14 0/6] LSM: Multiple concurrent LSMs Casey Schaufler
2013-07-25 18:32 ` [PATCH v14 1/6] LSM: Security blob abstraction Casey Schaufler
2013-07-29 21:15 ` Kees Cook
2013-07-30 1:49 ` Casey Schaufler
2013-07-25 18:32 ` [PATCH v14 2/6] LSM: Move the capability LSM into the hook handlers Casey Schaufler
2013-07-25 18:32 ` [PATCH v14 3/6] LSM: Explicit individual LSM associations Casey Schaufler
2013-07-29 20:51 ` Kees Cook
2013-07-30 1:48 ` Casey Schaufler
2013-07-30 22:08 ` Paul Moore
2013-07-31 16:22 ` Casey Schaufler
2013-07-31 19:39 ` Paul Moore [this message]
2013-07-31 21:21 ` Casey Schaufler
2013-08-01 18:35 ` Paul Moore
2013-08-01 18:52 ` Casey Schaufler
2013-08-01 21:30 ` Paul Moore
2013-08-01 22:15 ` Casey Schaufler
2013-08-01 22:18 ` Paul Moore
2013-07-25 18:32 ` [PATCH v14 4/6] LSM: List based multiple LSM hooks Casey Schaufler
2013-07-25 18:32 ` [PATCH v14 5/6] LSM: SO_PEERSEC configuration options Casey Schaufler
2013-07-30 21:47 ` Paul Moore
2013-07-31 15:45 ` Casey Schaufler
2013-07-31 17:56 ` Paul Moore
2013-07-25 18:32 ` [PATCH v14 6/6] LSM: Multiple LSM Documentation and cleanup Casey Schaufler
2013-07-26 23:17 ` Randy Dunlap
2013-07-28 18:46 ` Casey Schaufler
2013-08-01 2:48 ` [PATCH v14 0/6] LSM: Multiple concurrent LSMs Balbir Singh
2013-08-01 17:21 ` Casey Schaufler
2013-08-06 3:28 ` Balbir Singh
2013-08-06 6:30 ` Kees Cook
2013-08-06 22:25 ` Casey Schaufler
2013-08-06 22:36 ` Kees Cook
2013-08-27 2:29 ` Casey Schaufler
2013-08-28 15:55 ` Kees Cook
2013-09-05 18:48 ` Kees Cook
2013-09-06 6:44 ` Casey Schaufler
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