From: nipponmail@firemail.cc
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: ruben@mrbrklyn.com, mrbrklyn@panix.com
Subject: Re: Will no-one sue GrSecurity for their blatant GPL violation (of GCC and the linux kernel)? - He is violating, but you can also rescind the license
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2019 18:20:46 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <217b99f456fb178603a9cece07a7d8ee@firemail.cc> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1iRgHg-0007e0-Gd@fencepost.gnu.org>
You do know, correct?, that the Copyright holder can simply rescind the
license if he is displeased with the way the licensee is behaving -
since the license is not supported by a contract.
The licensee would then rush to the Federal Court in his district to
seek a declaratory judgement regarding his rights, and then you're in a
diversity and federal-question suit.
But that is an option where the licensee paid no consideration for the
non-exclusive licensee grant (and no: obeying a pre-existing legal duty
is not sufficient for consideration)
I would like to note that in the Kasner(sp)? decision in the 9th circuit
the uneducated like to bandy about; the Artistic License was found NOT
to be a contract but a simple copyright license.
Also in the lower-court (California) Artifex decision the court didn't
even identify the "GPL" correctly, conflating it with the
offer-to-do-paying-bushiness preliminary writing (pay us, or accept the
GPL), but the court then allowed the Copyright holder to choose which
theory to go ahead with: Contract damages for the price of the
proprietary license OR pure Federal Copyright damages under the GPL
(because the GPL is not a contract: it's only a license. If the court
found it to be a contract it would limit the recovery to contract
damages under state law: which is WHY in Kasner the violator wanted the
Artistic license to be deemed a contract: damages of 0 (free))
However, GrSecurity is violating the GPL so you can just sue for
Copyright damages off the bat (as my other 2 posts quickly explain, I
haven't repeated the arguments here).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-11-04 18:20 UTC|newest]
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[not found] ` <E1iRgHg-0007e0-Gd@fencepost.gnu.org>
2019-11-04 17:56 ` Will no-one sue GrSecurity for their blatant GPL violation (of GCC and the linux kernel)? nipponmail
2019-11-04 17:58 ` Will no-one sue GrSecurity for their blatant GPL violation (of GCC and the linux kernel)? - BP and EFF have addressed nipponmail
2019-11-04 18:20 ` nipponmail [this message]
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[not found] ` <87ftj3gx9h.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de>
2019-11-05 0:37 ` Will no-one sue GrSecurity for their blatant GPL violation (of GCC and the linux kernel)? nipponmail
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