From: "Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@aracnet.com>
To: Robert Love <rml@tech9.net>, "Dimitrie O. Paun" <dimi@intelliware.ca>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@digeo.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch] "HT scheduler", sched-2.5.63-B3
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 15:33:18 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <23050000.1046993597@flay> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1046991923.715.64.camel@phantasy.awol.org>
>> Right, being able to control this interactivity knob programmatically
>> seems like a useful thing. That way, the window manager can boost the
>> interactivity of the foreground window for example. It does seem that
>> figuring out that something is interactive in the scheduler is tough,
>> there is just not enough information, whereas a higher layer may know
>> this for a fact. I guess this reduces my argument to just keeping the
>> interactivity setting separate from priority.
>
> No no no. Martin's point shows exactly that nothing but the kernel can
> ever know whether a task is I/O or CPU bound. What is bash? Is it
> interactive (when you are typing into it) or CPU bound (when its running
> a script or doing other junk)?
>
> Only the kernel knows exactly the sleep patterns of tasks, which is
> essentially whether or not a task is interactive.
Exactly ... all this tweaking, and setting up every app individually is bad.
It should "just frigging work" ;-) We seem to be pretty close to that
at the moment - 2.5 feels *so* much better than 2.4 already (2.4 degenerates
into a total slug overnight, presumably when things like man page reindexes
thrash the page cache).
The fact that the debian renice of the X server actually breaks things is
probably good news ... we're actually paying real attention to the nice
value ;-)
M.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-03-06 23:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-02-28 9:50 [patch] "HT scheduler", sched-2.5.63-B3 Ingo Molnar
2003-02-28 21:12 ` Andrew Morton
2003-02-28 21:23 ` Robert Love
2003-03-01 4:25 ` Andrew Morton
2003-03-06 3:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-03-06 7:45 ` Andrew Morton
2003-03-06 7:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-03-06 15:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-03-06 16:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-03-06 17:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-03-06 17:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-03-06 17:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-03-06 17:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-03-06 18:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-03-06 18:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-03-06 17:55 ` John Levon
2003-03-06 18:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-03-06 18:11 ` John Levon
2003-03-06 18:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-03-06 18:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-03-06 18:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-03-06 18:10 ` David S. Miller
2003-03-06 18:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-03-07 5:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-03-07 5:54 ` Shawn
2003-03-07 6:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-03-07 14:28 ` jlnance
2003-03-07 6:45 ` Aaron Lehmann
2003-03-07 6:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-03-07 7:00 ` Aaron Lehmann
2003-03-07 7:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-03-08 18:28 ` Aaron Lehmann
2003-03-07 7:00 ` Andrew Morton
2003-03-07 3:19 ` Horst von Brand
2003-03-06 15:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-03-06 16:01 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-03-06 16:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-03-06 17:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-03-06 17:52 ` jvlists
2003-03-06 18:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-03-07 8:15 ` Xavier Bestel
2003-03-06 23:18 ` Robert Love
2003-03-06 18:49 ` Alan Cox
2003-03-06 17:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-03-06 18:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-03-06 18:13 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-06 18:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-03-08 0:05 ` Daniel Phillips
2003-03-06 17:58 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-03-06 17:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-03-06 18:06 ` Dimitrie O. Paun
2003-03-06 22:14 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-06 22:31 ` Dimitrie O. Paun
2003-03-06 23:05 ` Robert Love
2003-03-06 23:33 ` Martin J. Bligh [this message]
2003-03-06 18:25 ` Alan Cox
2003-03-06 17:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-03-06 22:30 ` Eric Northup
2003-03-06 23:40 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-07 0:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-03-07 0:09 ` Dimitrie O. Paun
2003-03-06 22:00 ` Bill Davidsen
2003-03-06 17:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-03-06 17:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-03-06 17:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-03-06 17:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-03-06 18:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-03-06 20:42 ` Andrew Morton
2003-03-06 22:18 ` Robert Love
2003-03-07 5:52 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-03-07 5:51 ` Shawn
2003-03-07 6:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-03-07 6:07 ` Andrew Morton
2003-03-07 6:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-03-07 10:19 ` Helge Hafting
2003-03-07 11:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-03-07 7:45 ` Mike Galbraith
2003-03-07 7:45 ` Ingo Molnar
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44.0303070842420.4572-100000@localhost.localdom ain>
2003-03-07 8:09 ` Mike Galbraith
2003-03-07 8:10 ` Andrew Morton
2003-03-07 8:26 ` Mike Galbraith
2003-03-07 8:15 ` Ingo Molnar
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44.0303070913370.5173-100000@localhost.localdom ain>
2003-03-07 8:34 ` Mike Galbraith
2003-03-07 8:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-03-06 22:03 ` Martin Waitz
2003-03-06 22:07 ` Robert Love
2003-03-06 22:35 ` Martin Waitz
2003-03-06 22:56 ` Robert Love
2003-03-06 23:27 ` Martin Waitz
2003-03-06 23:36 ` Robert Love
2003-03-07 10:39 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-03-07 10:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-03-06 6:58 ` [patch] "interactivity changes", sched-2.5.64-A4 Ingo Molnar
2003-03-06 10:00 ` Andrew Morton
2003-03-06 10:07 ` [patch] "interactivity changes", sched-2.5.64-A5 Ingo Molnar
2003-03-06 10:16 ` [patch] "HT scheduler", sched-2.5.63-B3 Chris Wedgwood
2003-03-06 10:18 ` Ingo Molnar
[not found] <5.2.0.9.2.20030307093435.01a8fe88@pop.gmx.net>
2003-03-07 9:30 ` Ingo Molnar
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44.0303071003060.6318-100000@localhost.localdom ain>
2003-03-07 9:38 ` Mike Galbraith
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