From: "Américo Wang" <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>
To: Lennart Poettering <mzxreary@0pointer.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] exit: PR_SET_ANCHOR for marking processes as reapers for child processes
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 17:54:14 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2375c9f91002050154m1d179ea7v91c8253b41fc63eb@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100203174947.GA13943@tango.0pointer.de>
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 1:49 AM, Lennart Poettering <mzxreary@0pointer.de> wrote:
> On Wed, 03.02.10 23:31, Américo Wang (xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com) wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 01:04:57PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote:
>> >
>> >This patch adds a simple flag for each process that marks it as an
>> >"anchor" process for all its children and grandchildren. If a child of
>> >such an anchor dies all its children will not be reparented to init, but
>> >instead to this anchor, escaping this anchor process is not possible. A
>> >task with this flag set hence acts is little "sub-init".
>>
>> This will break the applictions which using 'getppid() == 1' to check
>> if its real parent is dead or not...
>
> Usage of the PR_SETANCHOR flag is optional for a process. It won't
> break anything unless enabled. So I don't really see a problem here.
>
> Of course, when this flag is used the behaviour is different from what
> traditional Unix says what happens with the children of a process when
> it dies. But uh, that's the whole point and that's why this flag is
> enabled optionally only.
As for the example you mentioned, gnome-session, with your patch
applied, it will use this to set itself as "anchor", all the programs that
are started within it will be children of it. If one of these programs uses
"getppid() == 1" trick, it will break it.
>
> Also, on a side note: code that checks if its parent process died most
> likely should rewritten to use PR_DEATHSIG or something like that
> anyway, so that it is notified about the parent dying instead of
> polling for it manually.
>
I agree, but this is not a reason for you to break the compatiblity.
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Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-02-02 12:04 [PATCH] exit: PR_SET_ANCHOR for marking processes as reapers for child processes Lennart Poettering
2010-02-03 8:24 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-02-03 9:53 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-02-03 15:31 ` Américo Wang
2010-02-03 17:49 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-02-05 9:54 ` Américo Wang [this message]
2010-02-11 10:21 ` Kay Sievers
2010-02-04 15:42 ` Kay Sievers
2010-02-04 20:59 ` Kay Sievers
2010-03-04 14:08 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-03-04 22:14 ` Roland McGrath
2010-03-05 18:51 ` Kay Sievers
2010-03-05 19:18 ` Roland McGrath
2010-03-06 0:24 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-03-09 0:45 ` Ray Lee
2010-03-09 13:19 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-03-06 0:20 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-03-08 23:11 ` Roland McGrath
2010-03-05 4:47 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-03-05 18:55 ` Kay Sievers
2010-03-06 0:16 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-03-11 4:14 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-03-11 7:56 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-12-20 14:26 ` Scott James Remnant
2010-12-20 14:51 ` Kay Sievers
2010-12-21 9:56 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-12-21 12:05 ` Scott James Remnant
2010-12-23 15:44 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-12-23 16:00 ` Scott James Remnant
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