From: Nuno Das Neves <nunodasneves@linux.microsoft.com>
To: Easwar Hariharan <easwar.hariharan@linux.microsoft.com>
Cc: linux-hyperv@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
kys@microsoft.com, haiyangz@microsoft.com, wei.liu@kernel.org,
mhklinux@outlook.com, decui@microsoft.com,
paekkaladevi@linux.microsoft.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/6] mshv: Ignore second stats page map result failure
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2025 11:06:25 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <23d93b71-86cc-4c01-9264-b049cfec39e0@linux.microsoft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7b4fafc7-cf89-45f6-ac5c-59a4c9f53f79@linux.microsoft.com>
On 9/8/2025 10:22 AM, Easwar Hariharan wrote:
> On 9/8/2025 10:04 AM, Nuno Das Neves wrote:
>> On 9/5/2025 12:21 PM, Easwar Hariharan wrote:
>>> On 8/28/2025 5:43 PM, Nuno Das Neves wrote:
>>>> From: Purna Pavan Chandra Aekkaladevi <paekkaladevi@linux.microsoft.com>
>>>>
>>>> Some versions of the hypervisor do not support HV_STATUS_AREA_PARENT and
>>>> return HV_STATUS_INVALID_PARAMETER for the second stats page mapping
>>>> request.
>>>>
>>>> This results a failure in module init. Instead of failing, gracefully
>>>> fall back to populating stats_pages[HV_STATS_AREA_PARENT] with the
>>>> already-mapped stats_pages[HV_STATS_AREA_SELF].
>>>
>>> What's the impact of this graceful fallback? It occurs to me that if a stats
>>> accumulator, in userspace perhaps, expected to get stats from the 2 pages,
>>> it'd get incorrect values.
>>>
>> This is going out of scope of this series a bit but I'll explain briefly.
>>
>> When we do add the code to expose these stats to userspace, the SELF and
>> PARENT pages won't be exposed separately, there is no duplication.
>>
>> For each stat counter in the page, we'll expose either the SELF or PARENT
>> value, depending on whether there is anything in that slot (whether it's zero
>> or not).
>>
>> Some stats are available via the SELF page, and some via the PARENT page, but
>> the counters in the page have the same layout. So some counters in the SELF
>> page will all stay zero while on the PARENT page they are updated, and vice
>> versa.
>>
>> I believe the hypervisor takes this strange approach for the purpose of
>> backward compatibility. Introducing L1VH created the need for this SELF/PARENT
>> distinction.
>>
>> Hope that makes some kind of sense...it will be clearer when we post the mshv
>> debugfs code itself.
>>
>> To put it another way, falling back to the SELF page won't cause any impact
>> to userspace because the distinction between the pages is all handled in the
>> driver, and we only read each stat value from either SELF or PARENT.
>>
>> Nuno
>
> Thank you for that explanation, it sorta makes sense.
>
> I think it'd be better if this patch is part of the series that exposes the stats
> to userspace, so that it can be reviewed in context with the rest of the code in
> the driver that manages the pick-and-choose of a stat value from the SELF/PARENT
> page.
>
Good idea, I think I'll do that. Thanks!
> Unless there's an active problem now in the upstream kernel that this patch solves?
> i.e. are the versions of the hypervisor that don't support the PARENT stats
> page available in the wild?
>
I thought there was, but on reflection, no it doesn't solve a problem that exists in
the code today.
Nuno
> Thanks,
> Easwar (he/him)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-08 18:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-29 0:43 [PATCH 0/6] mshv: Fixes for stats and vp state page mappings Nuno Das Neves
2025-08-29 0:43 ` [PATCH 1/6] mshv: Only map vp->vp_stats_pages if on root scheduler Nuno Das Neves
2025-09-04 17:00 ` Anirudh Rayabharam
2025-09-05 15:20 ` Praveen K Paladugu
2025-09-05 19:43 ` Easwar Hariharan
2025-09-06 7:11 ` Tianyu Lan
2025-08-29 0:43 ` [PATCH 2/6] mshv: Ignore second stats page map result failure Nuno Das Neves
2025-09-05 15:31 ` Praveen K Paladugu
2025-09-05 18:48 ` Nuno Das Neves
2025-09-05 19:21 ` Easwar Hariharan
2025-09-08 17:04 ` Nuno Das Neves
2025-09-08 17:22 ` Easwar Hariharan
2025-09-08 18:06 ` Nuno Das Neves [this message]
2025-09-09 14:52 ` Praveen K Paladugu
2025-09-09 16:27 ` Easwar Hariharan
2025-09-09 17:31 ` Nuno Das Neves
2025-09-06 17:30 ` Tianyu Lan
2025-08-29 0:43 ` [PATCH 3/6] mshv: Add the HVCALL_GET_PARTITION_PROPERTY_EX hypercall Nuno Das Neves
2025-09-04 17:12 ` Anirudh Rayabharam
2025-09-05 15:40 ` Praveen K Paladugu
2025-09-05 19:28 ` Easwar Hariharan
2025-09-05 23:13 ` Nuno Das Neves
2025-08-29 0:43 ` [PATCH 4/6] mshv: Get the vmm capabilities offered by the hypervisor Nuno Das Neves
2025-09-05 15:43 ` Praveen K Paladugu
2025-09-05 18:49 ` Nuno Das Neves
2025-09-05 19:03 ` Anirudh Rayabharam
2025-09-05 23:07 ` Nuno Das Neves
2025-09-05 19:29 ` Easwar Hariharan
2025-09-06 17:34 ` Tianyu Lan
2025-08-29 0:43 ` [PATCH 5/6] mshv: Allocate vp state page for HVCALL_MAP_VP_STATE_PAGE on L1VH Nuno Das Neves
2025-09-05 16:18 ` Praveen K Paladugu
2025-09-05 19:41 ` Easwar Hariharan
2025-08-29 0:43 ` [PATCH 6/6] mshv: Introduce new hypercall to map stats page for L1VH partitions Nuno Das Neves
2025-09-05 19:50 ` Easwar Hariharan
2025-09-05 23:12 ` Nuno Das Neves
2025-09-08 16:26 ` Easwar Hariharan
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