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From: Andrew McGregor <andrew@indranet.co.nz>
To: Bogdan Costescu <bogdan.costescu@iwr.uni-heidelberg.de>
Cc: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>,
	dlstevens@us.ibm.com, matti.aarnio@zmailer.org, niv@us.ibm.com,
	alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, stefano.andreani.ap@h3g.it,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-net@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: R: Kernel bug handling TCP_RTO_MAX?
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 02:07:24 +1300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <24420000.1039784844@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0212131321400.11129-100000@kenzo.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de>

--On Friday, December 13, 2002 13:33:16 +0100 Bogdan Costescu 
<bogdan.costescu@iwr.uni-heidelberg.de> wrote:

> On Sat, 14 Dec 2002, Andrew McGregor wrote:
>
>> You're going to make lots of IETFer's really annoyed by suggesting that
>> :-)
>
> I hope not. That was the reason for allowing it to be tuned and for
> having  a default value equal to the existing one.

I know the folks in question :-)  Actually, they'd be nice about it, but 
say something like:

Well, RFC 2988 says that the present value is too small and should be 1s, 
although I take it from other discussion that experiment shows 200ms to be 
OK.

Instead, RFCs 3042 and 3390 present the IETF's preferred approach that has 
actually made it through the process.  But there are lots of drafts in 
progress, so that isn't the final word, although it is certainly better 
than tuning down RTO_MAX.

Now, I have no idea if the kernel presently implements the latter two by 
default (and on a quick look I can't find either in the code).  If not, it 
should.  Shouldn't the initial window be a tunable?

>> In a closed network, why not have SOCK_STREAM map to something faster
>> than  TCP anyway?
>
> Sure, just give me a protocol that:
> - is reliable
> - has low latency
> - comes with the standard kernel
> and I'll just use it. But you always get only 2 out ot 3...
>
> --
> Bogdan Costescu

SCTP is in 2.5 now.  Does that not fit the bill?  I admit, I don't know 
about the reliability, although I guess I'm going to find out as I have 
cause to use it shortly.  Wearing an IETF hat, I'd like to hear about this, 
as I'm on a bit of a practicality crusade there :-)

Andrew

  reply	other threads:[~2002-12-13 13:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-12-13  6:55 R: Kernel bug handling TCP_RTO_MAX? David Stevens
2002-12-13  6:59 ` David S. Miller
2002-12-13 11:46   ` Bogdan Costescu
2002-12-13 11:48     ` Andrew McGregor
2002-12-13 12:33       ` Bogdan Costescu
2002-12-13 13:07         ` Andrew McGregor [this message]
2002-12-13 18:07       ` Nivedita Singhvi
2002-12-13 22:25         ` Andrew McGregor
2002-12-13 22:58         ` Matti Aarnio
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-12-12 20:37 Nivedita Singhvi
2002-12-12 20:18 Andreani Stefano
2002-12-12 20:32 ` David S. Miller
2002-12-12 21:16 ` Alan Cox
2002-12-13  2:26   ` Nivedita Singhvi
2002-12-13  3:39     ` Matti Aarnio
2002-12-13  4:45       ` Nivedita Singhvi
2002-12-13  6:26         ` Nivedita Singhvi
2002-12-13 11:40         ` Andrew McGregor
2002-12-13  5:23       ` David S. Miller

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