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From: Daniel Sneddon <daniel.sneddon@linux.intel.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, "Shutemov, Kirill" <kirill.shutemov@intel.com>,
	"Huang, Kai" <kai.huang@intel.com>
Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Gomez Iglesias,
	Antonio" <antonio.gomez.iglesias@intel.com>,
	Pawan Gupta <pawan.kumar.gupta@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/apic: Don't disable x2APIC if locked
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2022 17:40:02 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <244c4bc6-c5ec-dcca-1ffe-5f00fd0091f3@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87o7wrtyze.ffs@tglx>

On 8/10/22 17:17, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 10 2022 at 16:38, Daniel Sneddon wrote:
>> On 8/10/22 16:09, Dave Hansen wrote:
>>> config INTEL_TDX_GUEST
>>>         bool "Intel TDX (Trust Domain Extensions) - Guest Support"
>>>         depends on X86_64 && CPU_SUP_INTEL
>>>         depends on X86_X2APIC
>>
>> So I got some more input.  SPR and newer will lock the APIC.  Older products
>> will get a ucode update, but that ucode update won't include the APIC lock.  So,
>> on non-SPR parts do we still want to make SGX depend on X2APIC?
> 
> What is the ucode update doing on pre SPR parts?
> Just providing magic voodoo which pretends to be safe?
It'll be clearing the buffers so that when someone tries to read data from the
APIC it won't leak data anymore.
> 
> The public available documentation for this is a huge pile of void.
I don't disagree with that.
> 
> The point is that if the SGX attestation will fail when X2APIC is not
> enforced on the host as of 'some magic dates in 2023' according to the
> documentation I pointed to, then any pre SPR SGX capable system is going
> to be disfunctional vs. SGX at one of those magic dates.
>
> Some people inside a particular company need to get their act together
> and either make this consistent or provide some coherent information why
> this is not required for pre SPR parts and why SPR needs to have it.

I'll try to get more clarification, and more importantly, get that published
somewhere.

> 
> Thanks,
> 
>         tglx
> 
> 
Thanks for the input!



  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-11  0:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-09 23:40 [PATCH] x86/apic: Don't disable x2APIC if locked Daniel Sneddon
2022-08-10 18:01 ` Dave Hansen
2022-08-10 18:30   ` Daniel Sneddon
2022-08-10 18:52     ` Dave Hansen
2022-08-10 19:40       ` Daniel Sneddon
2022-08-10 19:59         ` Dave Hansen
2022-08-10 20:06           ` Daniel Sneddon
2022-08-10 20:29             ` Daniel Sneddon
2022-08-10 21:57               ` Dave Hansen
2022-08-10 22:06         ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-08-10 22:56           ` Daniel Sneddon
2022-08-10 23:03           ` Daniel Sneddon
2022-08-10 23:09             ` Dave Hansen
2022-08-10 23:38               ` Daniel Sneddon
2022-08-10 23:44                 ` Dave Hansen
2022-08-11  0:01                   ` Daniel Sneddon
2022-08-11  0:38                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-08-11  0:59                       ` Daniel Sneddon
2022-08-11 10:08                         ` Huang, Kai
2022-08-11  0:17                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-08-11  0:40                   ` Daniel Sneddon [this message]
2022-08-11  8:29               ` Huang, Kai

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