From: Diederik de Haas <didi.debian@cknow.org>
To: Daniel Golle <daniel@makrotopia.org>, wens@kernel.org
Cc: linux-rockchip@lists.infradead.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 0/3] hwrng: add hwrng support for Rockchip RK3568
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2024 10:22:18 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2451882.5D0I8gZW9r@bagend> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGb2v65Mm5s96asU7iaAC_sJnUk=Yuh+zMJJBbmSgETWrPLoFA@mail.gmail.com>
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On Wednesday, 17 July 2024 04:58:51 CEST Chen-Yu Tsai wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 10:25 AM Daniel Golle <daniel@makrotopia.org> wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 16, 2024 at 07:19:35PM +0200, Diederik de Haas wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, 16 July 2024 18:53:43 CEST Diederik de Haas wrote:
> > > > rngtest: FIPS 140-2(2001-10-10) Long run: 0
> > >
> > > I don't know if it means something, but I noticed that I have
> > > ``Long run: 0`` with all my poor results,
> > > while Chen-Yu had ``Long run: 1``.
> > >
> > > Different SoC (RK3399), but Anand had ``Long run: 0`` too on their
> > > very poor result (100% failure):
> > > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-rockchip/CANAwSgTTzZOwBaR9zjJ5VMpxm5BydtW6
> > > rB2S7jg+dnoX8hAoWg@mail.gmail.com/>
> > The conclusions I draw from that rather ugly situation are:
> > - The hwrng should not be enabled by default, but it should by done
> >
> > for each board on which it is known to work well.
> >
> > - RK_RNG_SAMPLE_CNT as well as the assumed rng quality should be
> >
> > defined in DT for each board:
> > * introduce new 'rochchip,rng-sample-count' property
> > * read 'quality' property already used for timeriomem_rng
> >
> > I will prepare a follow-up patch taking those conclusions into account.
> >
> > Just for completeness, here my test result on the NanoPi R5C:
> > root@OpenWrt:~# cat /dev/hwrng | rngtest -c 1000
> > rngtest 6.15
> > Copyright (c) 2004 by Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
> > This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO
> > warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR
> > PURPOSE.
> >
> > rngtest: starting FIPS tests...
> > rngtest: bits received from input: 20000032
> > rngtest: FIPS 140-2 successes: 875
> > rngtest: FIPS 140-2 failures: 125
> > rngtest: FIPS 140-2(2001-10-10) Monobit: 123
> > rngtest: FIPS 140-2(2001-10-10) Poker: 5
> > rngtest: FIPS 140-2(2001-10-10) Runs: 4
> > rngtest: FIPS 140-2(2001-10-10) Long run: 0
> > rngtest: FIPS 140-2(2001-10-10) Continuous run: 0
> > rngtest: input channel speed: (min=85.171; avg=141.102;
> > max=4882812.500)Kibits/s rngtest: FIPS tests speed: (min=17.809;
> > avg=19.494; max=60.169)Mibits/s rngtest: Program run time: 139628605
> > microseconds
>
> I doubt this is per-board. The RNG is inside the SoC, so it could be a chip
> quality thing.
I agree with ChenYu (and others) that this is isn't a per-board level thing.
I'd even go further: 's/I doubt/It can't be that/' (for the same reason
though; this is inside the SoC).
Before I saw these latest emails, I was going to suggest:
1. Enable it only on RK3568 for now. I would be fine if this would be accepted
by the maintainer
2. Ask that you make a special version (for me) where I could play with the
params without having to compile a new kernel for each variant (it generally
takes me more then 24h on my Q64-A). Either through kernel module properties
or properties defined in the DeviceTree is fine with me.
3. Based on the results make a choice to not enable it on rk3566 at all or
(indeed) introduce DT properties to configure it differently per SoC.
4. Hope/Ask for more test results
> On the RK3399 we also saw wildly varying results.
On my Rock64('s) (RK3328) it doesn't work at all:
```
root@cs21:~# cat /dev/hwrng | rngtest -c 1000
rngtest 5
...
rngtest: starting FIPS tests...
cat: /dev/hwrng: No such device
rngtest: entropy source drained
```
Cheers,
Diederik
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-07-17 8:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-07-14 15:15 [PATCH v7 0/3] hwrng: add hwrng support for Rockchip RK3568 Daniel Golle
2024-07-14 15:15 ` [PATCH v7 1/3] dt-bindings: rng: Add Rockchip RK3568 TRNG Daniel Golle
2024-07-14 15:16 ` [PATCH v7 2/3] hwrng: add hwrng driver for Rockchip RK3568 SoC Daniel Golle
2024-07-15 19:47 ` Martin Kaiser
2024-07-21 0:26 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2024-07-14 15:18 ` [PATCH v7 3/3] arm64: dts: rockchip: add DT entry for RNG to RK356x Daniel Golle
2024-07-14 18:09 ` [PATCH v7 0/3] hwrng: add hwrng support for Rockchip RK3568 Chen-Yu Tsai
2024-07-16 12:34 ` Diederik de Haas
2024-07-16 13:27 ` Daniel Golle
2024-07-16 13:59 ` Diederik de Haas
2024-07-16 14:13 ` Diederik de Haas
2024-07-16 15:18 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2024-07-16 16:53 ` Diederik de Haas
2024-07-16 17:19 ` Diederik de Haas
2024-07-17 2:24 ` Daniel Golle
2024-07-17 2:58 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2024-07-17 3:34 ` Dragan Simic
2024-07-17 5:06 ` Anand Moon
2024-07-17 5:18 ` Dragan Simic
2024-07-17 8:22 ` Diederik de Haas [this message]
2024-07-17 8:31 ` Dragan Simic
2024-07-17 8:38 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2024-07-17 8:49 ` Diederik de Haas
2024-07-17 10:44 ` Daniel Golle
2024-07-17 3:14 ` Dragan Simic
2024-07-22 17:57 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2024-07-22 19:03 ` Diederik de Haas
2024-07-24 6:07 ` Dragan Simic
2024-07-29 23:18 ` Daniel Golle
2024-07-30 9:03 ` Diederik de Haas
2024-07-30 10:36 ` Heiko Stübner
2024-07-30 12:08 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2024-08-01 16:48 ` Dragan Simic
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