From: Heiko Stuebner <heiko@sntech.de>
To: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
Cristian Ciocaltea <cristian.ciocaltea@collabora.com>
Cc: kernel@collabora.com, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
linux-rockchip@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/40] arm64: dts: rockchip: Add frl-enable-gpios to rk3576-luckfox-core3576
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2026 17:18:20 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2480203.yKrmzQ4Hd0@phil> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <401a020f-ca5d-4c7d-941e-f0288e144357@collabora.com>
Am Montag, 20. April 2026, 13:00:25 Mitteleuropäische Sommerzeit schrieb Cristian Ciocaltea:
> Hi Heiko,
>
> On 4/18/26 2:12 AM, Heiko Stuebner wrote:
> > Hi Cristian,
> >
> > Am Freitag, 17. April 2026, 18:34:17 Mitteleuropäische Sommerzeit schrieb Cristian Ciocaltea:
> >> On 4/17/26 2:32 PM, Heiko Stuebner wrote:
> >>> the comments below apply sort of to all patches in that series.
> >>>
> >>> Am Freitag, 17. April 2026, 11:24:39 Mitteleuropäische Sommerzeit schrieb Cristian Ciocaltea:
> >>>> The board exposes the GPIO4_C6 line to control the voltage bias on the
> >>>> HDMI data lines. It must be asserted when operating in HDMI 2.1 FRL
> >>>> mode and deasserted for HDMI 1.4/2.0 TMDS mode.
> >>>>
> >>>> Wire up the HDMI node to the GPIO line using the frl-enable-gpios
> >>>> property and drop the line from the vcc_5v0_hdmi regulator to allow
> >>>> adjusting the bias when transitioning between TMDS and FRL operating
> >>>> modes.
>
> [...]
>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> @@ -231,6 +228,8 @@ &gpu {
> >>>> };
> >>>>
> >>>> &hdmi {
> >>>> + pinctrl-0 = <&hdmi_txm0_pins &hdmi_tx_scl &hdmi_tx_sda &hdmi_frl_en>;
> >>>> + frl-enable-gpios = <&gpio4 RK_PC6 GPIO_ACTIVE_LOW>;
> >>>
> >>> this should be sorted the other way around I think.
> >>>
> >>> Also please provide a pinctrl-names property too. If for whatever reason
> >>> the dw-hdmi aquires a 2nd pinctrl state in the future, this makes sure
> >>> board DTs are staying in the "old" compatible mode until they are adapted.
> >>
> >> Just to make sure I fully understand, the convention is that
> >>
> >> pinctrl-names = "default";
> >>
> >> should be always provided, even when the node overrides an existing pinctrl-0
> >> property?
> >>
> >> E.g. in rk3576.dtsi we have:
> >>
> >> hdmi: hdmi@27da0000 {
> >> ...
> >> pinctrl-names = "default";
> >> pinctrl-0 = <&hdmi_txm0_pins &hdmi_tx_scl &hdmi_tx_sda>;
> >> ...
> >> }
> >>
> >> Hence I omitted pinctrl-names which doesn't change and just appended
> >> &hdmi_frl_en to pinctrl-0's original value.
> >
> > correct, please always provide a pinctrl-names entry when setting a new
> > pinctrl-0 .
> >
> > The background is, imagine you have a base:
> >
> > pinctrl-names = "default";
> > pinstrl-0 = <....>;
> >
> > and override pinctrl-0 in a board.
> >
> > Now a newer binding introduces a 2nd pinctrl state "foo". Of course
> > we're backwards compatible, and both are valid and the driver checks
> > what states are defined.
> >
> > So the base sets:
> > pinctrl-names = "default", "foo";
> > pinctrl-0 = <...>;
> > pinctrl-1 = <...>;
> >
> > in your (old) board you override pinctrl-0, but the driver still sees
> > the new variant with 2 pinctrl states, where it should've stayed with
> > the legacy 1-state, until the board-dts might get adapted in the future.
> >
> >
> > And I know, we're likely not doing that everywhere, and also in most
> > cases it won't really matter, but still it is safer and sets the better
> > precedent :-) .
>
> Thanks for the detailed explanation, that clears things up!
>
> There are several other nodes (e.g. i2c, pwm, uart) that also lack
> pinctrl-names despite providing pinctrl-0 - I can address those in a
> separate patch.
As said above it is an ideal to aspire to (having -names together with
defining states), but if you want to add the "missing" -names,
go ahead :-) .
> I also noticed an inconsistency in property ordering: some nodes place
> pinctrl-names before pinctrl-<n> and others after. I have always used
> the former, but we should probably prefer the latter to stay consistent
> with how clocks, resets, phys, etc. are ordered.
>
> Thoughts?
There is sort of a "conflict" between regular ordering and possibly
better readability. I.e. the dt-writing guidelines propose alphabetical
ordering which I guess puts numbers before letters.
On the other hand the semantic definition of list the states and then
define them (names first, -0, -1, etc second) looks more sensible from
a understanding standpoint.
But there we'd end up with special rules, so just sticking to the
base sorting will cause less friction in the long run I think.
Aka, -0, -1 first; -names after, follows the main sorting suggestions
so it's easy to explain to newcomers.
But please don't re-sort existing entries :-)
Heiko
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-04-20 15:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-04-17 9:24 [PATCH 00/40] arm64: dts: rockchip: Wire up frl-enable-gpios for RK3576/RK3588 boards Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-04-17 9:24 ` [PATCH 01/40] arm64: dts: rockchip: Add frl-enable-gpios to rk3576-100ask-dshanpi-a1 Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-04-17 9:24 ` [PATCH 02/40] arm64: dts: rockchip: Add frl-enable-gpios to rk3576-armsom-sige5 Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-04-17 9:24 ` [PATCH 03/40] arm64: dts: rockchip: Add frl-enable-gpios to rk3576-evb1-v10 Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-04-17 9:24 ` [PATCH 04/40] arm64: dts: rockchip: Add frl-enable-gpios to rk3576-evb2-v10 Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-04-17 9:24 ` [PATCH 05/40] arm64: dts: rockchip: Add frl-enable-gpios to rk3576-luckfox-core3576 Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-04-17 11:32 ` Heiko Stuebner
2026-04-17 16:34 ` Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-04-17 23:12 ` Heiko Stuebner
2026-04-20 11:00 ` Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-04-20 15:18 ` Heiko Stuebner [this message]
2026-04-20 15:53 ` Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-04-17 9:24 ` [PATCH 06/40] arm64: dts: rockchip: Add frl-enable-gpios to rk3576-nanopi-m5 Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-04-17 9:24 ` [PATCH 07/40] arm64: dts: rockchip: Add frl-enable-gpios to rk3576-nanopi-r76s Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-04-17 9:24 ` [PATCH 08/40] arm64: dts: rockchip: Add frl-enable-gpios to rk3576-roc-pc Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-04-17 9:24 ` [PATCH 09/40] arm64: dts: rockchip: Add frl-enable-gpios to rk3576-rock-4d Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-04-17 9:24 ` [PATCH 10/40] arm64: dts: rockchip: Add frl-enable-gpios to rk3588-armsom-sige7 Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-04-17 9:24 ` [PATCH 11/40] arm64: dts: rockchip: Add frl-enable-gpios to rk3588-armsom-w3 Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-04-17 9:24 ` [PATCH 12/40] arm64: dts: rockchip: Add frl-enable-gpios to rk3588-coolpi-cm5-evb Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-04-17 9:24 ` [PATCH 13/40] arm64: dts: rockchip: Add frl-enable-gpios to rk3588-coolpi-cm5-genbook Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-04-17 9:24 ` [PATCH 14/40] arm64: dts: rockchip: Add frl-enable-gpios to rk3588-evb1-v10 Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-04-17 9:24 ` [PATCH 15/40] arm64: dts: rockchip: Add frl-enable-gpios to rk3588-evb2-v10 Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-04-17 9:24 ` [PATCH 16/40] arm64: dts: rockchip: Add frl-enable-gpios to rk3588-firefly-itx-3588j Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-04-17 9:24 ` [PATCH 17/40] arm64: dts: rockchip: Add frl-enable-gpios to rk3588-friendlyelec-cm3588-nas Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-04-17 9:24 ` [PATCH 18/40] arm64: dts: rockchip: Add frl-enable-gpios to rk3588-h96-max-v58 Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-04-17 9:24 ` [PATCH 19/40] arm64: dts: rockchip: Add frl-enable-gpios to rk3588-jaguar Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-04-17 9:24 ` [PATCH 20/40] arm64: dts: rockchip: Add frl-enable-gpios to rk3588-mnt-reform2 Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-04-17 9:24 ` [PATCH 21/40] arm64: dts: rockchip: Add frl-enable-gpios to rk3588-nanopc-t6 Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-04-17 9:24 ` [PATCH 22/40] arm64: dts: rockchip: Add frl-enable-gpios to rk3588-orangepi-5-max Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-04-17 9:24 ` [PATCH 23/40] arm64: dts: rockchip: Add frl-enable-gpios to rk3588-orangepi-5-plus Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-04-17 9:24 ` [PATCH 24/40] arm64: dts: rockchip: Add frl-enable-gpios to rk3588-orangepi-5-ultra Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-04-17 9:24 ` [PATCH 25/40] arm64: dts: rockchip: Add frl-enable-gpios to rk3588-roc-rt Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-04-17 9:25 ` [PATCH 26/40] arm64: dts: rockchip: Add frl-enable-gpios to rk3588-rock-5-itx Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-04-17 9:25 ` [PATCH 27/40] arm64: dts: rockchip: Add frl-enable-gpios to rk3588-rock-5b-5bp-5t Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-04-17 9:25 ` [PATCH 28/40] arm64: dts: rockchip: Add frl-enable-gpios to rk3588-tiger Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-04-17 9:25 ` [PATCH 29/40] arm64: dts: rockchip: Add frl-enable-gpios to rk3588s-coolpi-4b Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-04-17 9:25 ` [PATCH 30/40] arm64: dts: rockchip: Add frl-enable-gpios to rk3588s-gameforce-ace Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-04-17 9:25 ` [PATCH 31/40] arm64: dts: rockchip: Add frl-enable-gpios to rk3588s-indiedroid-nova Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-04-17 9:25 ` [PATCH 32/40] arm64: dts: rockchip: Add frl-enable-gpios to rk3588s-khadas-edge2 Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-04-17 9:25 ` [PATCH 33/40] arm64: dts: rockchip: Add frl-enable-gpios to rk3588s-nanopi-r6 Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-04-17 9:25 ` [PATCH 34/40] arm64: dts: rockchip: Add frl-enable-gpios to rk3588s-odroid-m2 Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-04-17 9:25 ` [PATCH 35/40] arm64: dts: rockchip: Add frl-enable-gpios to rk3588s-orangepi-5 Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-04-17 9:25 ` [PATCH 36/40] arm64: dts: rockchip: Add frl-enable-gpios to rk3588s-orangepi-cm5-base Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-04-17 9:25 ` [PATCH 37/40] arm64: dts: rockchip: Add frl-enable-gpios to rk3588s-radxa-cm5-io Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-04-17 9:25 ` [PATCH 38/40] arm64: dts: rockchip: Add frl-enable-gpios to rk3588s-roc-pc Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-04-17 9:25 ` [PATCH 39/40] arm64: dts: rockchip: Add frl-enable-gpios to rk3588s-rock-5a Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-04-17 9:25 ` [PATCH 40/40] arm64: dts: rockchip: Add frl-enable-gpios to rk3588s-rock-5c Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-04-17 11:34 ` [PATCH 00/40] arm64: dts: rockchip: Wire up frl-enable-gpios for RK3576/RK3588 boards Heiko Stuebner
2026-04-17 17:55 ` Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-04-17 23:18 ` Heiko Stuebner
2026-04-20 11:10 ` Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-04-20 15:08 ` Heiko Stuebner
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