From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1758477AbYDVG7g (ORCPT ); Tue, 22 Apr 2008 02:59:36 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1754929AbYDVG72 (ORCPT ); Tue, 22 Apr 2008 02:59:28 -0400 Received: from fmmailgate04.web.de ([217.72.192.242]:43051 "EHLO fmmailgate04.web.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754896AbYDVG72 convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Tue, 22 Apr 2008 02:59:28 -0400 Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 08:59:26 +0200 Message-Id: <248793158@web.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 From: devzero@web.de To: Adrian Bunk Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu Subject: Re: [2.6 patch] remove the v850 port Organization: http://freemail.web.de/ X-Provags-Id: V01U2FsdGVkX185rjjwnYLvO2+PtQ8D24hWCANvkUbdEsLG62DS2/xdEJ1PD r/2V7HXNbEPPiJC2PQZdpuRz2Kyhib4N4lwpOww5yUyLslZAN8= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org sounds reasonable, thanks for explaining. indeed this is an exceptional case and when there was a timeslot for adding to feature-removal-schedule.txt, then that was 3 months (or even more) ago. thanks roland > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: "Adrian Bunk" > Gesendet: 22.04.08 02:01:20 > An: devzero@web.de > CC: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu > Betreff: Re: [2.6 patch] remove the v850 port > On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 01:38:49AM +0200, devzero@web.de wrote: > > I can't afford to be critical here, but let me give a comment. > > > > i think putting this in feature-removal-schedule.txt just good practice. > > you give people the chance to catch up - sort of a last reminder to the devs "fix it or we need to drop it". > > some chance for the users to see it will go away and make early decision based on that. > > > > i like those cleanup efforts, but even if it was announced on lkml, or elsewhere - that file is the official place for such announcements and if you want people take care of that file, there should be reliable information inside. > > > > it often takes much effort and hard work to get code into the kernel, so some "nah, this is broken, doesn`t compile for long - put that to trash" seems a little bit harsh for me. > > > > the reason why it`s broken is probably not the v850 people`s fault. > > ok, they just didn`t catch up with that "kernel progress" - but most probably some other person broke their code. > > > > i don`t like bureaucracy, but a little bit of bureaucracy at the right place is not that bad at all..... > > As the patch description says it does not even compile since at > least kernel 2.6.19 (which was released in 2006). > > I've sent this removal patch 7 times during 3 months to linux-kernel. > > Before that I sent 2 emails to linux-kernel asking about the status of > the port. > > All emails also got to Miles, the maintainer of the port. > > Without the slightest sign of anyone claiming he might work on fixing > this port. > > Greg (one of the uClinux core maintainers) said the only one he knows > who can maintain the port is Miles. > > If there's not a single person on linux-kernel who is either interested > in this port or at least knows someone who is, then requiring to put it > into some file in the kernel sources is actually quite high on the scale > of pointless bureaucracy. > > > roland > > cu > Adrian > > -- > > "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out > of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days. > "Only a promise," Lao Er said. > Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed > > _______________________________________________________________ Schon gehört? Der neue WEB.DE MultiMessenger kann`s mit allen: http://www.produkte.web.de/messenger/?did=3016