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From: Joao Moreira <joao@overdrivepizza.com>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: David Laight <David.Laight@aculab.com>,
	'Peter Zijlstra' <peterz@infradead.org>,
	x86@kernel.org, Sami Tolvanen <samitolvanen@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/ibt: Implement FineIBT
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2022 13:09:25 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <24d4e2f277ecaa435075745817f2bd61@overdrivepizza.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <202210181013.923F8809@keescook>

On 2022-10-18 10:20, Kees Cook wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 08:58:24AM -0700, Joao Moreira wrote:
>> > Does the hash value for kCFI only depend on the function type?
>> > Or is there something like a attribute that can also be included?
>> 
>> Hi David -- does this sound like what you are asking about?
>> 
>> https://github.com/ClangBuiltLinux/linux/issues/1736
>> 
>> If yes, then it is something in our todo list :) I think Sami is 
>> handling
>> it.
> 
> I was hoping someone with prior experience with Call Graph Detaching to
> solve Transitive Clustering Relaxation[1] could assist? ;)

Hi Kees, thanks for bringing these slides up.

Yeah, I would be glad to help out with automating this sort of analysis. 
CGD, as explained in these slides would not help much here, because it 
was more of an optimization to reduce the number of allowed targets on 
returns (we did not have an almighty shadow stack at the time). Yet 
there are lots of other things we might be able to do, both statically 
and dynamically. Recent relevant research about this is multi-layer type 
analysis [1], which I may find the time to look into more deeply soon.

1 - https://www-users.cse.umn.edu/~kjlu/papers/mlta.pdf

Tks,
Joao

  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-18 20:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-18 13:35 [PATCH] x86/ibt: Implement FineIBT Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-18 14:43 ` David Laight
2022-10-18 15:58   ` Joao Moreira
2022-10-18 17:20     ` Kees Cook
2022-10-18 20:09       ` Joao Moreira [this message]
2022-10-19  5:33         ` Kees Cook
2022-10-18 21:27     ` David Laight
2022-10-18 14:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-18 18:09 ` Kees Cook
2022-10-18 19:56   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-18 23:31     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-10-19  5:22       ` Kees Cook
2022-10-19 11:38       ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-19  5:14     ` Kees Cook
2022-10-18 19:59   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-18 21:09     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-19  5:05     ` Kees Cook
2022-10-19 12:03       ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-19 15:22         ` Sami Tolvanen
2022-10-20 11:04           ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-18 19:59   ` Joao Moreira
2022-10-19  5:32     ` Kees Cook
2022-10-19 19:35       ` Joao Moreira
2022-10-18 20:05   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-19  5:00     ` Kees Cook
2022-10-18 20:09   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-18 20:17     ` Joao Moreira
2022-10-18 20:30       ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-19  4:48         ` Joao Moreira
2022-10-19  5:19           ` Kees Cook
2022-10-31 19:13             ` Joao Moreira
2022-11-01 21:39               ` Kees Cook
2022-11-01 21:50                 ` Joao Moreira
2024-05-06 17:36                   ` Kees Cook
2024-05-07  1:45                     ` Joao Moreira
2022-10-19  5:18         ` Kees Cook
2022-10-19  5:16     ` Kees Cook
2022-10-20 11:05   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-18 23:38 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-10-19  7:29   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-21 23:08 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-10-22 15:03   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-24 17:15     ` Sami Tolvanen
2022-10-24 18:38       ` Joao Moreira

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