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From: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: dhowells@redhat.com, Nicolas Pitre <nico@cam.org>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ralf Baechle <ralf@linux-mips.org>,
	benh@kernel.crashing.org, paulus@samba.org,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC patch 08/18] cnt32_to_63 should use smp_rmb()
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 11:20:19 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <25363.1226056819@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081107003816.9b0f947a.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:

> We have a macro which must only have a single usage in any particular
> kernel build (and nothing to detect a violation of that).

That's not true.  It's a macro containing a _static_ local variable, therefore
the macro may be used multiple times, and each time it's used the compiler
will allocate a new piece of storage.

> It apparently tries to avoid races via ordering tricks, as long
> as it is called with sufficient frequency.  But nothing guarantees
> that it _is_ called sufficiently frequently?

The comment attached to it clearly states this restriction.  Therefore the
caller must guarantee it.  That is something Mathieu's code and my code must
deal with, not Nicolas's.

> There is absolutely no reason why the first two of these quite bad things
> needed to be done.  In fact there is no reason why it needed to be
> implemented as a macro at all.

There's a very good reason to implement it as either a macro or an inline
function: it's faster.  Moving the whole thing out of line would impose an
additional function call overhead - with a 64-bit return value on 32-bit
platforms.  For my case - sched_clock() - I'm willing to burn a bit of extra
space to get the extra speed.

> As I said in the text which you deleted and ignored, this would be
> better if it was implemented as a C function which requires that the
> caller explicitly pass in a reference to the state storage.

I'd be quite happy if it was:

	static inline u64 cnt32_to_63(u32 cnt_lo, u32 *__m_cnt_hi)
	{
		union cnt32_to_63 __x;
		__x.hi = *__m_cnt_hi;
		__x.lo = cnt_lo;
		if (unlikely((s32)(__x.hi ^ __x.lo) < 0))
			*__m_cnt_hi =
				__x.hi = (__x.hi ^ 0x80000000) + (__x.hi >> 31);
		return __x.val;
	}

I imagine this would compile pretty much the same as the macro.  I think it
would make it more obvious about the independence of the storage.

Alternatively, perhaps Nicolas just needs to mention this in the comment more
clearly.

David

  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-07 11:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 118+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-11-07  5:23 [RFC patch 00/18] Trace Clock v2 Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07  5:23 ` [RFC patch 01/18] get_cycles() : kconfig HAVE_GET_CYCLES Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07  5:23 ` [RFC patch 02/18] get_cycles() : x86 HAVE_GET_CYCLES Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07  5:23 ` [RFC patch 03/18] get_cycles() : sparc64 HAVE_GET_CYCLES Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07  5:23 ` [RFC patch 04/18] get_cycles() : powerpc64 HAVE_GET_CYCLES Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 14:56   ` Josh Boyer
2008-11-07 18:14     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07  5:23 ` [RFC patch 05/18] get_cycles() : MIPS HAVE_GET_CYCLES_32 Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07  5:23 ` [RFC patch 06/18] Trace clock generic Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07  5:23 ` [RFC patch 07/18] Trace clock core Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07  5:52   ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-07  6:16     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07  6:26       ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-07 16:12         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 16:19           ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-07 18:16             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07  5:23 ` [RFC patch 08/18] cnt32_to_63 should use smp_rmb() Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07  6:05   ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-07  8:12     ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-07  8:38       ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-07 11:20         ` David Howells [this message]
2008-11-07 15:01           ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-07 15:50             ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-07 16:21               ` David Howells
2008-11-07 16:29                 ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-07 17:10                   ` David Howells
2008-11-07 17:26                     ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-07 18:00                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 18:21                         ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-07 18:30                           ` Harvey Harrison
2008-11-07 18:42                             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 18:33                           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 18:36                           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-11-07 18:45                             ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-07 16:47               ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-07 16:55                 ` David Howells
2008-11-07 17:21                 ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-07 20:03                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-07 16:07             ` David Howells
2008-11-07 16:47           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 17:04             ` David Howells
2008-11-07 17:17               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 23:27                 ` David Howells
2008-11-07 20:11             ` Russell King
2008-11-07 21:36               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 22:18                 ` Russell King
2008-11-07 22:36                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 23:41                   ` David Howells
2008-11-08  0:15                     ` Russell King
2008-11-08  0:45                       ` David Howells
2008-11-08 15:24                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-08 23:20                         ` [PATCH] clarify usage expectations for cnt32_to_63() Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-09  2:25                           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-09  2:54                             ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-09  5:06                               ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-09  5:27                                 ` [PATCH v2] " Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-09  6:48                                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-09 13:34                                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-09 13:43                                       ` Russell King
2008-11-09 16:22                                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-10  4:20                                         ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-10  4:42                                           ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-10 21:34                                             ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-10 21:58                                               ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-10 23:15                                                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-10 23:22                                                   ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-10 23:38                                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2008-11-11  0:26                                                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-11 18:28                                                       ` [PATCH] convert cnt32_to_63 to inline Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-11 19:13                                                         ` Russell King
2008-11-11 20:11                                                           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-11 21:51                                                             ` Russell King
2008-11-12  3:48                                                               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-11 21:00                                                         ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-11 21:13                                                           ` Russell King
2008-11-11 22:31                                                         ` David Howells
2008-11-11 22:37                                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-12  1:13                                                             ` Steven Rostedt
2008-11-07 11:03       ` [RFC patch 08/18] cnt32_to_63 should use smp_rmb() David Howells
2008-11-07 16:51         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 20:18           ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-07 23:55             ` David Howells
2008-11-07 10:59     ` David Howells
2008-11-07 10:55   ` David Howells
2008-11-07 17:09     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 17:33       ` Steven Rostedt
2008-11-07 19:18         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 19:32           ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-07 20:02             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 20:45               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 20:54                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-11-07 21:04                   ` Steven Rostedt
2008-11-08  0:34                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-11-07 21:16                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 23:50         ` David Howells
2008-11-08  0:55           ` Steven Rostedt
2008-11-09 11:51             ` David Howells
2008-11-09 14:31               ` Steven Rostedt
2008-11-09 16:18               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 20:08       ` Steven Rostedt
2008-11-07 20:55         ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-11-07 21:27         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 20:36       ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-07 20:55         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 21:22           ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-07  5:23 ` [RFC patch 09/18] Powerpc : Trace clock Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07  5:23 ` [RFC patch 10/18] Sparc64 " Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07  5:45   ` David Miller
2008-11-07  5:23 ` [RFC patch 11/18] LTTng timestamp sh Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07  5:23 ` [RFC patch 12/18] LTTng - TSC synchronicity test Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07  5:23 ` [RFC patch 13/18] x86 : remove arch-specific tsc_sync.c Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07  5:23 ` [RFC patch 14/18] MIPS use tsc_sync.c Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07  5:23 ` [RFC patch 15/18] MIPS : export hpt frequency for trace_clock Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07  5:23 ` [RFC patch 16/18] MIPS create empty sync_core() Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07  5:23 ` [RFC patch 17/18] MIPS : Trace clock Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 11:53   ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-07 17:44     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07  5:23 ` [RFC patch 18/18] x86 trace clock Mathieu Desnoyers

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