From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"Yang, Weijiang" <weijiang.yang@intel.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
peterz@infradead.org, Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
Cc: Chao Gao <chao.gao@intel.com>,
john.allen@amd.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com,
binbin.wu@linux.intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 09/19] KVM:x86: Make guest supervisor states as non-XSAVE managed
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2023 14:00:35 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2597a87b-1248-b8ce-ce60-94074bc67ea4@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8396a9f6-fbc4-1e62-b6a9-3df568fd15a2@redhat.com>
On 8/10/23 08:15, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On 8/10/23 16:29, Dave Hansen wrote:
>> What actual OSes need this support?
>
> I think Xen could use it when running nested. But KVM cannot expose
> support for CET in CPUID, and at the same time fake support for
> MSR_IA32_PL{0,1,2}_SSP (e.g. inject a #GP if it's ever written to a
> nonzero value).
>
> I suppose we could invent our own paravirtualized CPUID bit for
> "supervisor IBT works but supervisor SHSTK doesn't". Linux could check
> that but I don't think it's a good idea.
>
> So... do, or do not. There is no try. :)
Ahh, that makes sense. This is needed for implementing the
*architecture*, not because some OS actually wants to _do_ it.
...
>> In a perfect world, we'd just allocate space for CET_S in the KVM
>> fpstates. The core kernel fpstates would have
>> XSTATE_BV[13]==XCOMP_BV[13]==0. An XRSTOR of the core kernel fpstates
>> would just set CET_S to its init state.
>
> Yep. I don't think it's a lot of work to implement. The basic idea as
> you point out below is something like
>
> #define XFEATURE_MASK_USER_DYNAMIC XFEATURE_MASK_XTILE_DATA
> #define XFEATURE_MASK_USER_OPTIONAL \
> (XFEATURE_MASK_DYNAMIC | XFEATURE_MASK_CET_KERNEL)
>
> where XFEATURE_MASK_USER_DYNAMIC is used for xfd-related tasks
> (including the ARCH_GET_XCOMP_SUPP arch_prctl) but everything else uses
> XFEATURE_MASK_USER_OPTIONAL.
>
> KVM would enable the feature by hand when allocating the guest fpstate.
> Disabled features would be cleared from EDX:EAX when calling
> XSAVE/XSAVEC/XSAVES.
OK, so let's _try_ this perfect-world solution. KVM fpstates get
fpstate->xfeatures[13] set, but no normal task fpstates have that bit
set. Most of the infrastructure should be there to handle this without
much fuss because it _should_ be looking at generic things like
fpstate->size and fpstate->features.
But who knows what trouble this will turn up. It could get nasty and
not worth it, but we should at least try it.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-08-28 21:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-08-03 4:27 [PATCH v5 00/19] Enable CET Virtualization Yang Weijiang
2023-08-03 4:27 ` [PATCH v5 01/19] x86/cpufeatures: Add CPU feature flags for shadow stacks Yang Weijiang
2023-08-03 4:27 ` [PATCH v5 02/19] x86/fpu/xstate: Introduce CET MSR and XSAVES supervisor states Yang Weijiang
2023-08-03 4:27 ` [PATCH v5 03/19] KVM:x86: Report XSS as to-be-saved if there are supported features Yang Weijiang
2023-08-03 4:27 ` [PATCH v5 04/19] KVM:x86: Refresh CPUID on write to guest MSR_IA32_XSS Yang Weijiang
2023-08-04 16:02 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-08-04 21:43 ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-08-09 3:11 ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-08-08 14:20 ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-08-04 18:27 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-08-07 6:55 ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-08-09 8:56 ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-08-10 0:01 ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-08-10 1:12 ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-08-03 4:27 ` [PATCH v5 05/19] KVM:x86: Initialize kvm_caps.supported_xss Yang Weijiang
2023-08-04 18:45 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-08-08 15:08 ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-08-03 4:27 ` [PATCH v5 06/19] KVM:x86: Load guest FPU state when access XSAVE-managed MSRs Yang Weijiang
2023-08-03 4:27 ` [PATCH v5 07/19] KVM:x86: Add fault checks for guest CR4.CET setting Yang Weijiang
2023-08-03 9:07 ` Chao Gao
2023-08-03 4:27 ` [PATCH v5 08/19] KVM:x86: Report KVM supported CET MSRs as to-be-saved Yang Weijiang
2023-08-03 10:39 ` Chao Gao
2023-08-04 3:13 ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-08-04 5:51 ` Chao Gao
2023-08-04 18:51 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-08-04 22:01 ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-08-08 15:16 ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-08-06 8:54 ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-08-04 18:55 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-08-08 15:26 ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-08-04 21:47 ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-08-09 3:14 ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-08-03 4:27 ` [PATCH v5 09/19] KVM:x86: Make guest supervisor states as non-XSAVE managed Yang Weijiang
2023-08-03 11:15 ` Chao Gao
2023-08-04 3:26 ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-08-04 20:45 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-08-04 20:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-04 21:32 ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-08-09 2:51 ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-08-09 2:39 ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-08-10 9:29 ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-08-10 14:29 ` Dave Hansen
2023-08-10 15:15 ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-08-10 15:37 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-08-11 3:03 ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-08-28 21:00 ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2023-08-29 7:05 ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-08-03 4:27 ` [PATCH v5 10/19] KVM:VMX: Introduce CET VMCS fields and control bits Yang Weijiang
2023-08-03 4:27 ` [PATCH v5 11/19] KVM:VMX: Emulate read and write to CET MSRs Yang Weijiang
2023-08-04 5:14 ` Chao Gao
2023-08-04 21:27 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-08-04 21:45 ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-08-04 22:21 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-08-07 7:03 ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-08-06 8:44 ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-08-07 7:00 ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-08-04 8:28 ` Chao Gao
2023-08-09 7:12 ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-08-04 21:40 ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-08-09 3:05 ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-08-03 4:27 ` [PATCH v5 12/19] KVM:x86: Save and reload SSP to/from SMRAM Yang Weijiang
2023-08-04 7:53 ` Chao Gao
2023-08-04 15:25 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-08-06 9:14 ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-08-03 4:27 ` [PATCH v5 13/19] KVM:VMX: Set up interception for CET MSRs Yang Weijiang
2023-08-04 8:16 ` Chao Gao
2023-08-06 9:22 ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-08-07 1:16 ` Chao Gao
2023-08-09 6:11 ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-08-03 4:27 ` [PATCH v5 14/19] KVM:VMX: Set host constant supervisor states to VMCS fields Yang Weijiang
2023-08-04 8:23 ` Chao Gao
2023-08-03 4:27 ` [PATCH v5 15/19] KVM:x86: Optimize CET supervisor SSP save/reload Yang Weijiang
2023-08-04 8:43 ` Chao Gao
2023-08-09 9:00 ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-08-03 4:27 ` [PATCH v5 16/19] KVM:x86: Enable CET virtualization for VMX and advertise to userspace Yang Weijiang
2023-08-03 4:27 ` [PATCH v5 17/19] KVM:x86: Enable guest CET supervisor xstate bit support Yang Weijiang
2023-08-04 22:02 ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-08-09 6:07 ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-08-03 4:27 ` [PATCH v5 18/19] KVM:nVMX: Refine error code injection to nested VM Yang Weijiang
2023-08-04 21:38 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-08-09 3:00 ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-08-03 4:27 ` [PATCH v5 19/19] KVM:nVMX: Enable CET support for " Yang Weijiang
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