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From: Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
	Kieran Bingham <kbingham@kernel.org>,
	Shanker Donthineni <sdonthineni@nvidia.com>,
	Kuan-Ying Lee <Kuan-Ying.Lee@mediatek.com>,
	AngeloGioacchino Del Regno 
	<angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com>
Subject: Re: No care given to GDB scripts..
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2023 16:23:55 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <25a5e810-1e57-4a59-ae82-cb2c7d28a116@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231129150629.0a82efbfc1494972e4e4f8cb@linux-foundation.org>

On 11/29/23 15:06, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Nov 2023 14:48:02 -0800 Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>>
>> It is quite clear that there are zero cares being given to making sure
>> that GDB scripts continue to work after making changes to core kernel
>> code, and why would you, because you probably did not know those
>> existed, but they do and they are used, and useful.
>>
>> A recent example that was fixed by Kuan-Ying is this:
>>
>> and now of course, "lx-interupts" also stopped working altogether after
>> this change:
>>
>> https://lore.kernel.org/r/20230519134902.1495562-4-sdonthineni@nvidia.com
>>
>> and who knows what else I could not test that is also broken.
>>
>> We really need to find a better way to stop breaking GDB scripts, they
>> break way too often to be even remotely usable, and this is really sad.
>>
>> It is also quite clear that we do not have enough continuous integration
>> and regression testing to ensure those breakages are caught ahead of time...
>>
> 
> This isn't terribly surprising - the gdb scripts are a pretty remote
> corner and are peculiarly sensitive to getting damaged by routine
> kernel development.
> 
> Is there any way of scripting the scripts so we can have some sort of
> automated testing down under tools/testing/selftests/?

That might be a bit difficult to do as this would mean that we can self 
debug and introspect using gdb the live kernel. Testing using QEMU is 
definitively doable however. Of course, I just found another script that 
broke (device.py)!
-- 
Florian


  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-30  0:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-29 22:48 No care given to GDB scripts Florian Fainelli
2023-11-29 23:06 ` Andrew Morton
2023-11-30  0:23   ` Florian Fainelli [this message]
2023-11-30  1:02     ` Andrew Morton
2023-11-30  4:49       ` Florian Fainelli

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