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From: Pierre-Louis Bossart <pierre-louis.bossart@linux.intel.com>
To: Johan Hovold <johan@kernel.org>
Cc: Johan Hovold <johan+linaro@kernel.org>,
	Vinod Koul <vkoul@kernel.org>,
	Bard Liao <yung-chuan.liao@linux.intel.com>,
	Sanyog Kale <sanyog.r.kale@intel.com>,
	alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/4] soundwire: bus: clean up probe warnings
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2024 18:15:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <25ff111f-039d-4280-b604-ad3d2b9933fb@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZmBWBrJDRjPn6TpA@hovoldconsulting.com>



On 6/5/24 14:11, Johan Hovold wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 04, 2024 at 05:07:39PM +0200, Pierre-Louis Bossart wrote:
>> \
>>>>>>> @@ -123,7 +123,7 @@ static int sdw_drv_probe(struct device *dev)
>>>>>>>  	/* init the dynamic sysfs attributes we need */
>>>>>>>  	ret = sdw_slave_sysfs_dpn_init(slave);
>>>>>>>  	if (ret < 0)
>>>>>>> -		dev_warn(dev, "Slave sysfs init failed:%d\n", ret);
>>>>>>> +		dev_warn(dev, "failed to initialise sysfs: %d\n", ret);
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>  	/*
>>>>>>>  	 * Check for valid clk_stop_timeout, use DisCo worst case value of
>>>>>>> @@ -147,7 +147,7 @@ static int sdw_drv_probe(struct device *dev)
>>>>>>>  	if (drv->ops && drv->ops->update_status) {
>>>>>>>  		ret = drv->ops->update_status(slave, slave->status);
>>>>>>>  		if (ret < 0)
>>>>>>> -			dev_warn(dev, "%s: update_status failed with status %d\n", __func__, ret);
>>>>>>> +			dev_warn(dev, "failed to update status: %d\n", ret);
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the __func__ does help IMHO, 'failed to update status' is way too general...
>>>>>
>>>>> Error messages printed with dev_warn will include the device and driver
>>>>> names so this message will be quite specific still.
>>>>
>>>> The goal isn't to be 'quite specific' but rather 'completely
>>>> straightforward'. Everyone can lookup a function name in a xref tool and
>>>>  quickly find out what happened. Doing 'git grep' on message logs isn't
>>>> great really, and over time logs tend to be copy-pasted. Just look at
>>>> the number of patches where we had to revisit the dev_err logs to make
>>>> then really unique/useful.
>>>
>>> Error message should be self-contained and give user's some idea of what
>>> went wrong and not leak implementation details like function names (and
>>> be greppable, which "%s:" is not).
>>
>> "Failed to update status" doesn't sound terribly self-contained to me.
>>
>> It's actually a great example of making the logs less clear with good
>> intentions. How many people know that the SoundWire bus exposes an
>> 'update_status' callback, and that callback can be invoked from two
>> completely different places (probe or on device attachment)?
>>
>> /* Ensure driver knows that peripheral unattached */
>> ret = sdw_update_slave_status(slave, status[i]);
>> if (ret < 0)
>> 	dev_warn(&slave->dev, "Update Slave status failed:%d\n", ret);
>>
>> You absolutely want to know which of these two cases failed, but with
>> your changes they now look rather identical except for the order of
>> words. one would be 'failed to update status' and the other 'update
>> status failed'.
>>
>> What is much better is to know WHEN this failure happens, then folks
>> looking at logs to fix a problem don't need to worry about precise
>> wording or word order.
>>
>> It's a constant battle to get meaningful messages that are useful for
>> validation/integration folks, and my take is that it's a
>> windmill-fighting endeavor. The function name is actually more useful,
>> it's not an implementation detail, it's what you're looking for when
>> reverse-engineering problematic sequences from a series of CI logs.
> 
> Just add "at probe" to differentiate the two cases if you really think
> this is an issue:
> 
> 	dev_warn(dev, "failed to update status at probe: %d\n", ret);

__func__ would provide equivalent functionality, only more precise...
I guess it's time for Vinod and Bard to chime in.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-06-05 16:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-04  7:52 [PATCH v2 0/4] soundwire: bus: suppress probe deferral errors Johan Hovold
2024-06-04  7:52 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] " Johan Hovold
2024-06-04  8:30   ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2024-06-04  9:09     ` Johan Hovold
2024-06-04 13:29       ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2024-06-04  7:52 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] soundwire: bus: drop unused driver name field Johan Hovold
2024-06-04  7:52 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] soundwire: bus: clean up probe warnings Johan Hovold
2024-06-04  8:33   ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2024-06-04  9:17     ` Johan Hovold
2024-06-04 13:43       ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2024-06-04 14:18         ` Johan Hovold
2024-06-04 15:07           ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2024-06-05 12:11             ` Johan Hovold
2024-06-05 16:15               ` Pierre-Louis Bossart [this message]
2024-06-04  7:52 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] soundwire: bus: drop redundant probe debug message Johan Hovold
2024-06-04  8:37   ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2024-06-04  9:24     ` Johan Hovold

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