From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=3.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AFA6C43387 for ; Fri, 28 Dec 2018 18:47:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20C6B20869 for ; Fri, 28 Dec 2018 18:47:42 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=fail reason="key not found in DNS" (0-bit key) header.d=memeware.net header.i=@memeware.net header.b="xvIhZakd" Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1730628AbeL1Srk (ORCPT ); Fri, 28 Dec 2018 13:47:40 -0500 Received: from cock.li ([185.100.85.212]:40970 "EHLO cock.li" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1730551AbeL1Srk (ORCPT ); Fri, 28 Dec 2018 13:47:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=memeware.net; s=mail; t=1546022857; bh=/6fuBgg46+GsVkyS6z0sn8aj7XsJDq1C9xOlMKpTGK4=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:From; b=xvIhZakdMuHWOCiYG6CrWa8ko37zc8ut6VygnWabwT7Liuy5jQw/wQmj/5ekDS6sO 771Qj6EcHAvk8RhniP80rPdWbPOoLeqlhV6I4/KUqtCAc3zTXdQzmEhW+Ot6dc2Q1t GbqFQ/KFz3f1shQz4n6oX6DUK5Obeuo71tvU8dozjrE17hH+57PspIuqACG+d44wqb bNC/bfSyVtBApjsJHc5i7LDKBh1uBZzQ5mIwg2384GecjnV37xvG6vFxeGQKQ3KxKz 9rYWZBZ56KzCacHYkFQA9+sdDFe4+bkNgoA4GgNPeTHrYucfLwwsk5CXe2F+uCUC/d 5yj3UwquWRDbQ== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2018 18:47:36 +0000 From: vnsndalce@memeware.net To: r030t1@gmail.com Cc: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org, ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Thank you for your insight. Message-ID: <25ffdaef51fc80ac49f3d54d5245cd87@memeware.net> X-Sender: vnsndalce@memeware.net User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.3.6 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Thank you for your insight. It is a shame that there were no responses. They ignored your post, then kept baying at me: "no this is wrong" "you're not a lawyer" "I will not lower myself to refute you with arguments!". As for non-monetary consideration to support an additional no-revocation term: Many of the old linux-kernel (programmer)rights-holders have received nothing, and have made no such promise. Many of the contributors (who did not transfer their rights) have received nothing. There is nothing to uphold the contention that they have forfeited their default right to rescind license to their property. They never made such a promise, they were never paid for such a promise, they never contracted for such, etc. They wrote code, licensed it gratuitously, and now an attempt is being made to both control their speech, their action, and to basically convert their property. Most of the entities who have been licensed the works have neither paid anything to the various rights-holders, nor have they ever contacted nor been contacted by the various rights-holders, etc.