From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
To: esr@thyrsus.com
Cc: Charles Cazabon <linux@discworld.dyndns.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, arjan@fenrus.demon.nl
Subject: Re: Aunt Tillie builds a kernel (was Re: ISA hardware discovery -- the elegant solution)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 11:40:05 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <26116.1011094805@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020114151942.A20309@thyrsus.com>
In-Reply-To: <20020114151942.A20309@thyrsus.com> <20020114132618.G14747@thyrsus.com> <m16QCNJ-000OVeC@amadeus.home.nl> <20020114145035.E17522@thyrsus.com> <20020114142605.A4702@twoflower.internal.do>
esr@thyrsus.com said:
> He hard-compiled in that driver. lsmod(1) can't see it.
man dmesg.
Others have asserted that this kind of autoconfigure facility for
non-technical people isn't necessary.
I assert that it is actually harmful, and will make their life more
difficult.
My father's computer runs Linux. He doesn't need to recompile his kernels
or do any maintenance - I don't even trust him to run up2date for himself.
It's all he can manage to dial up and look at a web page so I can grab his
current IP address out of my logs, log in and do the rest.
If I get a bug report from him, it's not particularly coherent or useful.
Yet because he has a kernel binary which is identical to the one used by
many other more technical users out there, I can often match what he
complains about with the more useful bugreports in Bugzilla.
If he (or even I) compiled a custom kernel for him rather than using the
distro one, I wouldn't have a whelk's chance in a supernova of working out
WTF he was on about.
--
dwmw2
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-01-15 11:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-01-14 11:17 ISA hardware discovery -- the elegant solution Michael Lazarou (ETL)
2002-01-14 16:11 ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 16:59 ` Eli Carter
2002-01-14 17:11 ` Wichert Akkerman
2002-01-14 17:52 ` Aunt Tillie builds a kernel (was Re: ISA hardware discovery -- the elegant solution) Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 18:34 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 18:26 ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 18:55 ` Charles Cazabon
2002-01-14 13:32 ` Rob Landley
2002-01-14 18:54 ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 14:28 ` Rob Landley
2002-01-14 22:34 ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 23:02 ` Bruce Harada
2002-01-14 15:39 ` Rob Landley
2002-01-15 2:22 ` Bruce Harada
2002-01-15 13:27 ` Rob Landley
2002-01-15 0:46 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-01-15 12:29 ` Andrew Pimlott
2002-01-15 14:28 ` Bruce Harada
2002-01-15 17:04 ` Thomas Duffy
2002-01-15 18:19 ` Marco Colombo
2002-01-15 18:52 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-01-15 19:15 ` Manuel McLure
2002-01-15 19:28 ` Marco Colombo
2002-01-15 20:13 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-01-15 20:30 ` Manuel McLure
2002-01-15 20:41 ` arjanv
2002-01-15 20:56 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-01-15 21:27 ` Marco Colombo
2002-01-15 21:29 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-15 19:55 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-15 20:59 ` David Woodhouse
2002-01-16 14:53 ` Horst von Brand
2002-01-16 13:57 ` Horst von Brand
2002-01-16 10:42 ` Horst von Brand
2002-01-15 13:53 ` David Woodhouse
2002-01-14 23:26 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-15 2:06 ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-15 21:08 ` Horst von Brand
2002-01-15 0:09 ` Mark Hahn
2002-01-15 9:14 ` Sean Hunter
2002-01-15 16:36 ` Rob Landley
2002-01-14 19:29 ` Tom Rini
2002-01-14 19:29 ` Eli Carter
2002-01-14 19:45 ` Dave Jones
2002-01-14 19:52 ` Charles Cazabon
2002-01-15 11:00 ` Horst von Brand
2002-01-14 19:00 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 18:44 ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 19:14 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 19:34 ` Tom Rini
2002-01-14 18:59 ` Larry McVoy
2002-01-14 19:02 ` arjan
2002-01-14 19:50 ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 13:01 ` gmack
2002-01-14 14:43 ` Rob Landley
2002-01-14 20:26 ` Charles Cazabon
2002-01-14 20:19 ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 20:49 ` Dave Jones
2002-01-14 20:55 ` Brian Gerst
2002-01-14 21:21 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-15 11:40 ` David Woodhouse [this message]
2002-01-14 20:30 ` Justin Carlson
2002-01-15 1:30 ` Tom Rini
2002-01-15 22:46 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2002-01-15 22:56 ` Tom Rini
2002-01-16 4:09 ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 20:37 ` Dave Jones
2002-01-14 20:38 ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 22:07 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-01-14 22:18 ` Dave Jones
2002-01-14 22:36 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-01-14 22:18 ` Reid Hekman
2002-01-14 23:30 ` Timothy Covell
2002-01-14 21:05 ` Hugh Dickins
2002-01-14 21:15 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 22:08 ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 23:03 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 22:41 ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 23:27 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-15 1:21 ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-15 12:31 ` Marco Colombo
2002-01-15 22:17 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2002-01-15 23:22 ` Tom Rini
2002-01-16 10:49 ` Keith Owens
2002-01-15 11:53 ` T. A.
2002-01-15 13:53 ` Horst von Brand
2002-01-14 19:28 ` Ben Collins
2002-01-14 22:41 ` Tom Gilbert
2002-01-14 18:38 ` Dave Jones
2002-01-14 18:53 ` Larry McVoy
2002-01-14 20:50 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2002-01-15 19:34 ` Horst von Brand
2002-01-15 21:38 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2002-01-15 23:44 ` Rob Landley
2002-01-16 14:33 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2002-01-16 13:05 ` Rob Landley
2002-01-16 15:27 ` Horst von Brand
2002-01-15 10:05 ` Horst von Brand
2002-01-14 18:33 ` ISA hardware discovery -- the elegant solution Oliver Xymoron
2002-01-14 23:02 ` Tom Gilbert
2002-01-14 18:58 ` Andrew Pimlott
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-01-14 21:08 Aunt Tillie builds a kernel (was Re: ISA hardware discovery -- the elegant solution) Dave Jones
[not found] <fa.fslncfv.r6o11i@ifi.uio.no>
[not found] ` <fa.hqe5uev.c60cjs@ifi.uio.no>
2002-01-15 13:00 ` Giacomo Catenazzi
2002-01-15 13:57 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-15 14:02 ` Giacomo Catenazzi
2002-01-16 10:56 ` Horst von Brand
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