From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 07:05:36 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 07:05:26 -0500 Received: from [172.16.18.67] ([172.16.18.67]:59264 "EHLO passion.cambridge.redhat.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 07:05:15 -0500 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.2 06/23/2000 with nmh-1.0.4 From: David Woodhouse X-Accept-Language: en_GB In-Reply-To: <20010105072350.B31025@metastasis.f00f.org> In-Reply-To: <20010105072350.B31025@metastasis.f00f.org> <20010105071053.A31025@metastasis.f00f.org> To: Chris Wedgwood Cc: Mo McKinlay , Alan Cox , David Lang , Daniel Phillips , Helge Hafting , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Journaling: Surviving or allowing unclean shutdown? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 12:04:40 +0000 Message-ID: <2642.978696280@redhat.com> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org cw@f00f.org said: > Powering down a VCR whilst recording can damage the tape or even > worse have the tap get jammed in the video. I have also had a TV die > because it was unpowered from the mains without being switched off > first. > Sure, these things don't always happen -- but they sometimes do. I > would argue things like VCRs and TVs are just more tolerant than more > complex systems -- not immune. The reasoning here seems to be that because many other systems break under these circumstances, we shouldn't bother to make Linux reliable. I don't quite understand that way of thinking. I will continue to test the boards I work on with random power cycles and to consider the filesystem broken if it doesn't like that treatment. -- dwmw2 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/