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From: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: dhowells@redhat.com, Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [git pull] more vfs bits
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 12:39:52 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <27513.1424608792@warthog.procyon.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFyVQR+GYNTFpvbUwvhss8B58t=K0jD6=Rav5NHQ_Wpk0A@mail.gmail.com>

Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:

>  - dentry_inode*() is supposed to be "the inode that would be used if
> the dentry was opened"
>
>    What part of "dentry_inode()" implies "if the dentry was opened" to
> you? Nothing. The name is fundamentally bad.

That because I wasn't thinking of it that way because it's used in a lot more
places than just opening code.  Audit, for example.

> And what *possible* situation could make that "_once()" version ever be
> valid? None. It's bogus. It's crap. It's insane. There is no way that it is
> *ever* a valid question to even ask. If the dentry is so unstable that you
> can't safely look at the inode, you had damn well better never ask "ok, what
> would the inode be if I opened this random pointer"?

There were originally some uses of dentry_inode_once(), but I think they
dropped out when I removed most of fs/*.c from consideration by the scripts.

>  - fs_inode*() is supposed to be "this is the inode that the native
> filesystem uses".

Yes.

> So of the four new helpers, I really don't see any of them as "good".
> I think "dentry_inode()" could remain, but even there I think the name
> should specify *what* it is ("d_opened_inode()"?  I don't like that name
> either,

That's also a poor choice.  The inode isn't even opened necessarily.  If it is
opened and you have the struct file *, you should almost certainly be using
file_inode().

David

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-02-22 12:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-21  3:34 [git pull] more vfs bits Al Viro
2015-02-21 22:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-02-21 22:48   ` Linus Torvalds
2015-02-22  0:23     ` David Howells
2015-02-22  0:59       ` Al Viro
2015-02-22  0:18   ` David Howells
2015-02-22  1:14     ` Linus Torvalds
2015-02-22  1:32       ` Al Viro
2015-02-22  0:51   ` Al Viro
2015-02-22  1:34     ` Linus Torvalds
2015-02-22  2:02       ` Al Viro
2015-02-22  2:11         ` Al Viro
2015-02-22  2:19         ` Linus Torvalds
2015-02-22  2:51           ` Al Viro
2015-02-22  3:16             ` Linus Torvalds
2015-02-22  8:51               ` Al Viro
2015-02-22  9:32                 ` Sedat Dilek
2015-02-22  9:37                   ` Al Viro
2015-02-22 10:36                     ` Sedat Dilek
2015-02-22 15:05                       ` Sedat Dilek
2015-02-22 15:12                         ` Sedat Dilek
2015-02-22 13:22                     ` Sedat Dilek
2015-02-22 13:23                       ` Sedat Dilek
2015-02-22 12:54                 ` David Howells
2015-02-22 16:46                   ` [git pull] more vfs bits, updated Al Viro
2015-02-22 20:10                     ` Sedat Dilek
2015-02-22 12:44           ` [git pull] more vfs bits David Howells
2015-02-22 12:39       ` David Howells [this message]
2015-02-22 12:30     ` David Howells
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2013-03-03 16:04 Al Viro

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