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From: Shile Zhang <shile.zhang@linux.alibaba.com>
To: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
Cc: Masahiro Yamada <yamada.masahiro@socionext.com>,
	Michal Marek <michal.lkml@markovi.net>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	x86@kernel.org, "H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/4] Speed booting by sorting ORC unwind tables at build time
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2019 09:43:18 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <280e2634-e808-9177-478b-910b3210a958@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191107154654.jyg24wzqujdtx7zq@treble>



On 2019/11/7 23:46, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 07, 2019 at 10:32:01PM +0800, shile.zhang@linux.alibaba.com wrote:
>> From: Shile Zhang <shile.zhang@linux.alibaba.com>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I found the unwind_init taken long time (more than 90ms) in kernel
>> booting, mainly spent on sorting the two ORC unwind tables, orc_unwind
>> and orc_unwind_ip.
>>
>> I also noticed that this issued has reported and discussed last year:
>> https://lkml.org/lkml/2018/10/8/342
>> But seems no final solution until now, I tried to sort the ORC tables at
>> build time, followed the helpful hints from Josh and Ingo in that thread.
>> And mainly referred the implementation of 'sortextable' tool:
>> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mips/1334872799-14589-1-git-send-email-ddaney.cavm@gmail.com/
>>
>> What I did:
>>
>> - Add a Kconfig to control build-time sorting or runtime sorting;
>> - Referred 'sortextable', create a similar helper tool 'sortorctable',
>>    help to sort the ORC unwind tables at vmlinux link process.
>>
>> One potential improvement is to sort the module ORC tables in future.
>>
>> Thanks!
> Thanks a lot for working on this!
>
> I'd say the new config option isn't needed.  The runtime ORC sorting
> logic is unconditionally bad and the code should just be removed.  I saw
> recently that it's one of the main offenders for boot time latency.
Hi, Josh, Thanks very much for your quickly response!

I'll refactor the code as your advice.
Yes, the run-time sorting cost is bigger for currently Cloud products, 
such as serverless products, which needs boot up ASAP.
>
> I also agree with Peter that we should try to reduce the link-time
> penalty as much as possible.  But it's a necessary evil to a certain
> extent.
>
agree!

Thanks again and looking forwards more advice from you!

      reply	other threads:[~2019-11-08  1:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-07 14:32 [RFC PATCH 0/4] Speed booting by sorting ORC unwind tables at build time shile.zhang
2019-11-07 14:32 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] scripts: Add sortorctable to sort ORC unwind tables shile.zhang
2019-11-07 14:32 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] kbuild: Sort ORC unwind tables in vmlinux link process shile.zhang
2019-11-07 14:32 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] x86/unwind/orc: Skip sorting if BUILDTIME_ORCTABLE_SORT is configured shile.zhang
2019-11-07 14:32 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] x86/Kconfig: Add a Kconfig option to sort ORC tables at build time shile.zhang
2019-11-07 15:22 ` [RFC PATCH 0/4] Speed booting by sorting ORC unwind " Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-08  1:42   ` Shile Zhang
2019-11-08  9:21     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-08  9:25       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-11  2:44         ` Shile Zhang
2019-11-07 15:46 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-11-08  1:43   ` Shile Zhang [this message]

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