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From: Madadi Vineeth Reddy <vineethr@linux.ibm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	Chris Mason <clm@meta.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Madadi Vineeth Reddy <vineethr@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] sched/fair: Reimplement NEXT_BUDDY to align with EEVDF goals
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2025 13:56:13 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2841a37f-a6d2-44dc-9578-b40804e960d0@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251112144823.GE3245006@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>

Hi Peter,

On 12/11/25 20:18, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 12, 2025 at 12:25:21PM +0000, Mel Gorman wrote:
> 
>> +	/* Prefer picking wakee soon if appropriate. */
>> +	if (sched_feat(NEXT_BUDDY) &&
>> +	    set_preempt_buddy(cfs_rq, wake_flags, pse, se)) {
>> +
>> +		/*
>> +		 * Decide whether to obey WF_SYNC hint for a new buddy. Old
>> +		 * buddies are ignored as they may not be relevant to the
>> +		 * waker and less likely to be cache hot.
>> +		 */
>> +		if (wake_flags & WF_SYNC)
>> +			preempt_action = preempt_sync(rq, wake_flags, pse, se);
>> +	}
> 
> Why only do preempt_sync() when NEXT_BUDDY? Nothing there seems to
> depend on buddies.


IIUC, calling preempt_sync() Without NEXT_BUDDY would force a reschedule after the threshold,
but no buddy would be set. This means pick_eevdf() would run with normal EEVDF deadline selection,
potentially picking a different task instead of the wakee.The forced reschedule would accomplish
nothing for the wakees.

That said, I see your point that the WF_SYNC threshold check could still reduce context switch
overhead even without guaranteeing wakee selection.

Thanks,
Madadi Vineeth Reddy

  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-13  8:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-12 12:25 [PATCH 0/2 v5] Reintroduce NEXT_BUDDY for EEVDF Mel Gorman
2025-11-12 12:25 ` [PATCH 1/2] sched/fair: Enable scheduler feature NEXT_BUDDY Mel Gorman
2025-11-14 12:19   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Mel Gorman
2025-11-17 16:23   ` tip-bot2 for Mel Gorman
     [not found] ` <20251112122521.1331238-3-mgorman@techsingularity.net>
2025-11-12 14:48   ` [PATCH 2/2] sched/fair: Reimplement NEXT_BUDDY to align with EEVDF goals Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-13  8:26     ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy [this message]
2025-11-13  9:04     ` Mel Gorman
2025-11-14 12:13       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-14 12:19   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Mel Gorman
2025-11-17 16:23   ` tip-bot2 for Mel Gorman
2025-12-22 10:57     ` [REGRESSION] " Ryan Roberts
2026-01-02 12:38       ` Ryan Roberts
2026-01-02 15:52         ` Dietmar Eggemann
2026-01-05 11:45           ` Ryan Roberts
2026-01-05 14:38             ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-01-05 16:33               ` Ryan Roberts
2026-01-07 15:30             ` Dietmar Eggemann
2026-01-08  8:50               ` Mel Gorman
2026-01-08 13:15                 ` Ryan Roberts
2026-01-09 10:15                   ` Ryan Roberts
2026-01-12  7:47                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-12  8:52                       ` Ryan Roberts
2026-01-12  9:57                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-12 10:27                           ` Ryan Roberts
2026-01-13  6:31                         ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-01-15 10:16                     ` Mel Gorman
2026-01-08 10:01 ` [REGRESSION] [PATCH 0/2 v5] Reintroduce NEXT_BUDDY for EEVDF Madadi Vineeth Reddy
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2025-11-03 11:04 [PATCH 0/2 v4] " Mel Gorman
2025-11-03 11:04 ` [PATCH 2/2] sched/fair: Reimplement NEXT_BUDDY to align with EEVDF goals Mel Gorman
2025-11-03 14:07   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-03 14:14     ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-05 21:48   ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2025-11-07  8:53     ` Mel Gorman
     [not found] <20251027133915.4103633-1-mgorman@techsingularity.net>
2025-10-27 13:39 ` Mel Gorman
2025-10-28 15:05   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-31  9:46     ` Mel Gorman
2025-10-28 15:09   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-31  9:48     ` Mel Gorman
2025-10-28 15:33   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-28 15:47     ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-30  9:10   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-31 10:27     ` Mel Gorman
2025-10-21 14:28 [RFC PATCH 0/2] Reintroduce NEXT_BUDDY for EEVDF v2 Mel Gorman
2025-10-21 14:28 ` [PATCH 2/2] sched/fair: Reimplement NEXT_BUDDY to align with EEVDF goals Mel Gorman
2025-10-23  6:29   ` K Prateek Nayak
     [not found] <20250714134429.19624-1-mgorman@techsingularity.net>
2025-07-14 13:44 ` Mel Gorman

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