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From: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Al Viro <viro@ftp.linux.org.uk>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] timers, pointers to functions and type safety
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 12:22:44 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <28665.1165234964@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20061204114851.GA25859@elte.hu>

Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:

> the question is: which is more important, the type safety of a 
> container_of() [or type cast], which if we get it wrong produces a 
> /very/ trivial crash that is trivial to fix - or embedded timers data 
> structure size all around the kernel? I believe the latter is more 
> important.

Indeed yes.

Using container_of() and ditching the data value, you generally have to have
one extra instruction per timer handler, if that, but you are able to discard
one instruction or more from __run_timers() and struct timer_list discards a
word.

You will almost certainly have far more timer_list structs in the kernel than
timer handler functions, therefore it's a space win, and possibly also a time
win (if the reduction of __run_timers() is greater than the increase in the
timer handler).

And that extra instruction in the timer handler is usually going to be an
addition or subtraction of a small immediate value - which may be zero (in
which case the insn is dropped) or which may be folded directly into memory
access instruction offsets.

David

  reply	other threads:[~2006-12-04 12:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-12-01 17:21 [RFC] timers, pointers to functions and type safety Al Viro
2006-12-02  6:29 ` Daniel Berlin
2006-12-02 12:36   ` Al Viro
2006-12-02  9:23 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-12-02 12:42   ` Al Viro
2006-12-02 20:53     ` Kyle Moffett
2006-12-02 10:47 ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-12-02 12:59 ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-12-02 14:05   ` Al Viro
2006-12-02 14:45     ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-12-02 16:02       ` Matthew Wilcox
2006-12-02 18:06         ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-12-02 18:19           ` Al Viro
2006-12-02 18:27             ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-12-02 18:40               ` Al Viro
2006-12-02 18:48                 ` Al Viro
2006-12-02 21:43                 ` Roman Zippel
2006-12-02 21:59                   ` Al Viro
2006-12-02 22:13                     ` Roman Zippel
2006-12-02 22:40                       ` Al Viro
2006-12-02 23:06                         ` Roman Zippel
2006-12-03 10:21                           ` Pavel Machek
2006-12-03 11:27                             ` Russell King
2006-12-03 15:21                               ` Roman Zippel
2006-12-03 21:01                                 ` Pavel Machek
2006-12-03 22:52                                   ` Roman Zippel
2006-12-03 23:15                                     ` Pavel Machek
2006-12-04 11:14                               ` David Howells
2006-12-04 12:16                                 ` Russell King
2006-12-04 13:03                                   ` David Howells
2006-12-04 13:29                                     ` Russell King
2006-12-04 14:17                                       ` David Howells
2006-12-04 14:22                                         ` Russell King
2006-12-04 11:48             ` Ingo Molnar
2006-12-04 12:22               ` David Howells [this message]
2006-12-06  0:24                 ` Al Viro
2006-12-06 10:20                   ` David Howells
2006-12-12  9:59                   ` Ingo Molnar
2006-12-02 21:32         ` Roman Zippel

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