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From: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
To: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Cc: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
	"riel@redhat.com" <riel@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	"peterz@infradead.org" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"tytso@mit.edu" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"elladan@eskimo.com" <elladan@eskimo.com>,
	"npiggin@suse.de" <npiggin@suse.de>
Subject: Re: Found the commit that causes the OOMs
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 01:53:32 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <28c262360906280953r67a8f450s62931bd7fa8d6108@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090627153630.GA6803@cmpxchg.org>

On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 12:36 AM, Johannes Weiner<hannes@cmpxchg.org> wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 10:50:25PM +0900, Minchan Kim wrote:
>> Hi, Hannes.
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 9:54 PM, Johannes Weiner<hannes@cmpxchg.org> wrote:
>> > On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 08:12:49AM +0100, David Howells wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I've managed to bisect things to find the commit that causes the OOMs.  It's:
>> >>
>> >>       commit 69c854817566db82c362797b4a6521d0b00fe1d8
>> >>       Author: MinChan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
>> >>       Date:   Tue Jun 16 15:32:44 2009 -0700
>> >>
>> >>           vmscan: prevent shrinking of active anon lru list in case of no swap space V3
>> >>
>> >>           shrink_zone() can deactivate active anon pages even if we don't have a
>> >>           swap device.  Many embedded products don't have a swap device.  So the
>> >>           deactivation of anon pages is unnecessary.
>> >>
>> >>           This patch prevents unnecessary deactivation of anon lru pages.  But, it
>> >>           don't prevent aging of anon pages to swap out.
>> >>
>> >>           Signed-off-by: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
>> >>           Acked-by: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
>> >>           Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
>> >>           Acked-by: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
>> >>           Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
>> >>           Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
>> >>
>> >> This exhibits the problem.  The previous commit:
>> >>
>> >>       commit 35282a2de4e5e4e173ab61aa9d7015886021a821
>> >>       Author: Brice Goglin <Brice.Goglin@ens-lyon.org>
>> >>       Date:   Tue Jun 16 15:32:43 2009 -0700
>> >>
>> >>           migration: only migrate_prep() once per move_pages()
>> >>
>> >> survives 16 iterations of the LTP syscall testsuite without exhibiting the
>> >> problem.
>> >
>> > Here is the patch in question:
>> >
>> > diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
>> > index 7592d8e..879d034 100644
>> > --- a/mm/vmscan.c
>> > +++ b/mm/vmscan.c
>> > @@ -1570,7 +1570,7 @@ static void shrink_zone(int priority, struct zone *zone,
>> >         * Even if we did not try to evict anon pages at all, we want to
>> >         * rebalance the anon lru active/inactive ratio.
>> >         */
>> > -       if (inactive_anon_is_low(zone, sc))
>> > +       if (inactive_anon_is_low(zone, sc) && nr_swap_pages > 0)
>> >                shrink_active_list(SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX, zone, sc, priority, 0);
>> >
>> >        throttle_vm_writeout(sc->gfp_mask);
>> >
>> > When this was discussed, I think we missed that nr_swap_pages can
>> > actually get zero on swap systems as well and this should have been
>> > total_swap_pages - otherwise we also stop balancing the two anon lists
>> > when swap is _full_ which was not the intention of this change at all.
>>
>> At that time we considered it so that we didn't prevent anon list
>> aging for background reclaim.
>> Do you think it is not enough ?
>
> With a heavy multiprocess anon load, direct reclaimers will likely
> reuse the reclaimed pages for anon mappings, so you have a handful of
> processes shuffling pages on the active list and only one thread that
> tries to balance.  I can imagine that it can not keep up for long.

I agree. :)
total_swap_pages is better than nr_swap_pages although it isn't
related this problem.


>



-- 
Kinds regards,
Minchan Kim

  reply	other threads:[~2009-06-28 16:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-17  2:23 [PATCH 0/3] make mapped executable pages the first class citizen Wu Fengguang
2009-05-17  2:23 ` [PATCH 1/3] vmscan: report vm_flags in page_referenced() Wu Fengguang
2009-05-17  2:23 ` [PATCH 2/3] vmscan: make mapped executable pages the first class citizen Wu Fengguang
2009-05-19  8:59   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-17  2:23 ` [PATCH 3/3] vmscan: merge duplicate code in shrink_active_list() Wu Fengguang
2009-05-18  9:16   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-19  2:43     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-19 10:18       ` Johannes Weiner
2009-05-19 10:32         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-18 14:46 ` [PATCH 0/3] make mapped executable pages the first class citizen David Howells
2009-06-19  5:24   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-19  5:58   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-19  8:06   ` David Howells
2009-06-18 14:51 ` David Howells
2009-06-18 16:18 ` David Howells
2009-06-18 16:57   ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-20  4:33     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-20  8:24     ` David Howells
2009-06-23 14:43     ` David Howells
2009-06-24  1:43       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-24  2:32       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-24  2:43         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-24  2:49           ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-27 11:53           ` Johannes Weiner
2009-06-27 18:40           ` David Howells
2009-06-24 13:07       ` David Howells
2009-06-27  7:12       ` Found the commit that causes the OOMs David Howells
2009-06-27 12:07         ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-27 12:54         ` Johannes Weiner
2009-06-27 13:50           ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-27 15:36             ` Johannes Weiner
2009-06-28 16:53               ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2009-06-27 15:52           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-28 11:32           ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-28 13:30             ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-28 13:36               ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-28 14:22                 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-28 15:01                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-28 15:10                     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-28 16:50                       ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-29  0:17                       ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-29  7:34                         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-29 10:10                         ` David Howells
2009-06-29 12:55                           ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-29 14:21                           ` David Howells
2009-06-29 15:00                             ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-29 15:14                               ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-29 15:54                               ` David Howells
2009-06-29 15:56                                 ` David Woodhouse
2009-06-30 14:05                                   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-30 15:50                                     ` Minchan Kim
2009-07-01  2:30                                       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-01  1:18                                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-01  2:13                                       ` Rik van Riel
2009-07-01  2:16                                       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-01  2:26                                         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-01  2:51                                           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-01  2:57                                             ` Rik van Riel
2009-07-01  4:06                                               ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-01  4:18                                                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-01  4:25                                                   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-01  4:30                                                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-01 11:27                                                       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-05  9:55                                               ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-05 10:38                                                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-05 10:51                                                   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-01  3:54                                             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-29 16:07                               ` Mel Gorman
2009-06-30  4:07                                 ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-30  9:22                                   ` Mel Gorman
2009-06-30  9:30                                     ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-30 14:00                                     ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-30 19:57                                 ` David Howells
2009-07-02  7:41                                   ` Minchan Kim
2009-07-02  7:44                                     ` Minchan Kim
2009-07-02 12:43                                     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-02 14:08                                       ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-29 15:27                             ` David Howells
2009-06-28 14:49               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-28 15:04                 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-28 16:47                 ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-29  7:48                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-29  9:32                     ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-29 12:43                   ` David Howells
2009-06-29 12:59                     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-29 16:57                     ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-29 18:54                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-29 19:08                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-27 18:35         ` David Howells
2009-06-27 18:58         ` David Howells
2009-06-28  7:55         ` David Howells
2009-06-19  5:27   ` [PATCH 0/3] make mapped executable pages the first class citizen Wu Fengguang

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