From: Christian Loehle <christian.loehle@arm.com>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>
Cc: Linux PM <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Artem Bityutskiy <artem.bityutskiy@linux.intel.com>,
Tomasz Figa <tfiga@chromium.org>,
Doug Smythies <dsmythies@telus.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] cpuidle: governors: menu: Predict longer idle time when in doubt
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2025 19:37:21 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <28ecb23b-ecee-409a-9771-24f801081d07@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJZ5v0gBtv0bpK2swkc6D0AmanpKAvqO53dgRp2e7p9cWAM3TA@mail.gmail.com>
On 10/17/25 10:39, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 17, 2025 at 10:22 AM Christian Loehle
> <christian.loehle@arm.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 10/16/25 17:25, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>>> From: Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>
>>>
>>> It is reported that commit 85975daeaa4d ("cpuidle: menu: Avoid discarding
>>> useful information") led to a performance regression on Intel Jasper Lake
>>> systems because it reduced the time spent by CPUs in idle state C7 which
>>> is correlated to the maximum frequency the CPUs can get to because of an
>>> average running power limit [1].
>>> [snip]
>> [snip]
>> Anyway, the patch makes sense, let me run some tests and get back.
>
> Thanks!
Unfortunately this patch regresses my tests about as much as a revert of
85975daeaa4d would.
(menu-1 is $SUBJECT, menu-m current mainline, menu-r mainline with
85975daeaa4d reverted):
device gov iter iops idles idle_misses idle_miss_ratio belows aboves
mmcblk1 menu-1 0 1523 402522 119988 0.298 98552 21436
mmcblk1 menu-1 1 1481 395766 118596 0.300 97640 20956
mmcblk1 menu-1 2 1503 396560 117876 0.297 97506 20370
mmcblk1 menu-m 0 2355 703732 22275 0.032 2628 19647
mmcblk1 menu-m 1 2359 637522 24815 0.039 4075 20740
mmcblk1 menu-m 2 2356 706980 23836 0.034 3208 20628
mmcblk1 menu-r 0 1490 388180 118294 0.305 97871 20423
mmcblk1 menu-r 1 1498 393402 119984 0.305 99187 20797
mmcblk1 menu-r 2 1462 388597 119504 0.308 98640 20864
mmcblk2 menu-1 0 3303 503938 170251 0.338 150276 19975
mmcblk2 menu-1 1 3310 480508 132132 0.275 114398 17734
mmcblk2 menu-1 2 3554 466884 113659 0.243 95841 17818
mmcblk2 menu-m 0 5746 706262 24618 0.035 3802 20816
mmcblk2 menu-m 1 5741 727174 24152 0.033 3737 20415
mmcblk2 menu-m 2 5777 836940 12424 0.015 335 12089
mmcblk2 menu-r 0 3241 463112 133052 0.287 114616 18436
mmcblk2 menu-r 1 3551 422006 100494 0.238 82425 18069
mmcblk2 menu-r 2 3523 508542 140085 0.275 122880 17205
nvme0n1 menu-1 0 5407 436834 74314 0.170 54133 20181
nvme0n1 menu-1 1 5763 459510 72673 0.158 51530 21143
nvme0n1 menu-1 2 6266 489570 78651 0.161 58609 20042
nvme0n1 menu-m 0 10786 767740 23840 0.031 2855 20985
nvme0n1 menu-m 1 10586 757540 23612 0.031 2933 20679
nvme0n1 menu-m 2 11805 834012 23528 0.028 2768 20760
nvme0n1 menu-r 0 5323 431906 77426 0.179 56166 21260
nvme0n1 menu-r 1 5484 438142 76033 0.174 55956 20077
nvme0n1 menu-r 2 5353 428826 77024 0.180 57016 20008
sda menu-1 0 972 444116 149643 0.337 129023 20620
sda menu-1 1 954 557068 176479 0.317 159092 17387
sda menu-1 2 878 540360 196405 0.363 176792 19613
sda menu-m 0 1634 1017918 29614 0.029 8587 21027
sda menu-m 1 1622 878140 25323 0.029 8238 17085
sda menu-m 2 1632 1027167 28798 0.028 8428 20370
sda menu-r 0 918 531112 188314 0.355 168375 19939
sda menu-r 1 924 521378 185727 0.356 165327 20400
sda menu-r 2 880 529146 196391 0.371 176908 19483
nullb0 menu-1 0 101419 88988 23923 0.269 3080 20843
nullb0 menu-1 1 101610 88484 23678 0.268 2821 20857
nullb0 menu-1 2 101369 89336 23711 0.265 2795 20916
nullb0 menu-m 0 101696 88698 23860 0.269 2910 20950
nullb0 menu-m 1 101103 88120 23294 0.264 3295 19999
nullb0 menu-m 2 101880 86676 22730 0.262 2709 20021
nullb0 menu-r 0 101856 87742 23493 0.268 3204 20289
nullb0 menu-r 1 101514 89070 23653 0.266 2848 20805
nullb0 menu-r 2 101754 86318 23163 0.268 3229 19934
mtdblock3 menu-1 0 163 350284 115149 0.329 97166 17983
mtdblock3 menu-1 1 179 315948 99038 0.313 78243 20795
mtdblock3 menu-1 2 134 481584 160754 0.334 144150 16604
mtdblock3 menu-m 0 215 410034 70261 0.171 55445 14816
mtdblock3 menu-m 1 205 570150 109273 0.192 90189 19084
mtdblock3 menu-m 2 252 866616 23492 0.027 9717 13775
mtdblock3 menu-r 0 132 467365 161835 0.346 144056 17779
mtdblock3 menu-r 1 164 348682 117704 0.338 97859 19845
mtdblock3 menu-r 2 132 483300 165179 0.342 147164 18015
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-10-17 18:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-10-16 16:25 [PATCH v1] cpuidle: governors: menu: Predict longer idle time when in doubt Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-10-17 8:22 ` Christian Loehle
2025-10-17 9:39 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-10-17 18:37 ` Christian Loehle [this message]
2025-10-18 11:46 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-10-18 15:10 ` Doug Smythies
2025-10-19 14:45 ` Christian Loehle
2025-10-20 13:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-10-21 3:45 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-10-21 3:43 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-10-21 14:30 ` Doug Smythies
2025-10-22 8:00 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-10-23 2:24 ` Doug Smythies
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