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From: Alexander Stein <alexander.stein@ew.tq-group.com>
To: "Stefan Lengfeld" <contact@stefanchrist.eu>,
	"Krzysztof Hałasa" <khalasa@piap.pl>
Cc: linux-media <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Dave Stevenson <dave.stevenson@raspberrypi.com>,
	Oleksij Rempel <linux@rempel-privat.de>,
	Pengutronix Kernel Team <kernel@pengutronix.de>,
	Shawn Guo <shawnguo@kernel.org>,
	Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>,
	Fabio Estevam <festevam@gmail.com>,
	NXP Linux Team <linux-imx@nxp.com>,
	linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Sony IMX290/462 image sensors I2C xfer peculiarity
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2023 13:59:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2905840.e9J7NaK4W3@steina-w> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3fs2htn7g.fsf@t19.piap.pl>

Hi,

Am Mittwoch, 11. Oktober 2023, 13:25:55 CEST schrieb Krzysztof Hałasa:
> Stefan,
> 
> > I cannot answer whether the delay is needed for atomic transfer or not.
> > But I can give a bit of context for I2C atomic transfers in general.
> > 
> > These where only introduced for a very narrow and special uses shutting
> > down the device/power with external PMICs in the kernel's shutdown
> > handlers.
> 
> Well, I guess I'm abusing this code a bit.
> 
> The problem is I use Sony IMX290 and IMX462 image sensors, and they have
> an apparently hard-coded timeout of about 2^18 their master clock cycles
> (= ca. 7 ms with my setup). After the timeout they simply disconnect
> from the I2C bus. Of course, this isn't mentioned in the docs.
> Unfortunately, "normal" I2C accesses take frequently more than those
> 7 ms (mostly due to scheduling when all CPU cores are in use). So I
> hacked the IMX I2C driver a bit and now all accesses to the sensor use
> the atomic paths and local_irq_save() (inside the driver only).

I assume that the master clock is running independently to I2C from the SoC 
the sensor is attached to. Your calculations indicate you are assuming ~400kHz 
I2C clock frequency.
But nothing is preventing that sensor from running on a 100kHz I2C bus. Even 
this "atomic" hack will not be sufficient in that case.

Best regards,
Alexander

> > My understand is that an ordinary I2C device would just use normal (and
> > sleepable) I2C transfers while the device is in use.
> 
> You are spot-on here :-) Now I use IMX 290 and 462.
> 
> OTOH I wonder if such issues are limited to those sensors only.
> 
> Thanks for your immediate response,


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  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-11 12:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-29 10:53 Sony IMX290/462 image sensors I2C xfer peculiarity Krzysztof Hałasa
2023-09-29 13:33 ` Dave Stevenson
2023-10-03 12:59   ` Krzysztof Hałasa
2023-10-10  9:46     ` Krzysztof Hałasa
2023-10-11  9:10       ` Krzysztof Hałasa
2023-10-11  9:50         ` Krzysztof Hałasa
2023-10-11 10:15           ` Stefan Lengfeld
2023-10-11 11:25             ` Krzysztof Hałasa
2023-10-11 11:59               ` Alexander Stein [this message]
2023-10-11 12:18                 ` Krzysztof Hałasa
2023-10-12 22:01               ` Stefan Lengfeld
2023-10-13  7:17                 ` Wolfram Sang
2023-10-13 10:39                 ` Krzysztof Hałasa

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