From: John Heffner <jheffner@psc.edu>
To: Ion Badulescu <lists@limebrokerage.com>
Cc: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
linux-net@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Possible BUG in IPv4 TCP window handling, all recent 2.4.x/2.6.x kernels
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 22:51:48 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2d02c76a84655d212634a91002b3eccd@psc.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0509011845040.6083@guppy.limebrokerage.com>
On Sep 1, 2005, at 6:53 PM, Ion Badulescu wrote:
>
> A few minutes later it has finally caught up to present time and it
> starts receiving smaller packets containing real-time data. The TCP
> window is still 16534 at this point.
>
> [tcpdump output removed]
>
> This is where things start going bad. The window starts shrinking from
> 15340 all the way down to 2355 over the course of 0.3 seconds. Notice
> the many duplicate acks that serve no purpose (there are no lost
> packets and the tcpdump is taken on the receiver so there is no
> packets/acks crossed in flight).
I have an idea why this is going on. Packets are pre-allocated by the
driver to be a max packet size, so when you send small packets, it
wastes a lot of memory. Currently Linux uses the packets at the
beginning of a connection to make a guess at how best to advertise its
window so as not to overflow the socket's memory bounds. Since you
start out with big segments then go to small ones, this is defeating
that mechanism. It's actually documented in the comments in
tcp_input.c. :)
* The scheme does not work when sender sends good segments opening
* window and then starts to feed us spagetti. But it should work
* in common situations. Otherwise, we have to rely on queue collapsing.
If you overflow the socket's memory bound, it ends up calling
tcp_clamp_window(). (I'm not sure this is really the right thing to do
here before trying to collapse the queue.) If the receiving
application doesn't fall too far behind, it might help you to set a
much larger receiver buffer.
-John
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-09-02 2:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-09-01 22:30 Possible BUG in IPv4 TCP window handling, all recent 2.4.x/2.6.x kernels Ion Badulescu
2005-09-01 22:43 ` David S. Miller
2005-09-01 22:49 ` Jesper Juhl
2005-09-01 22:53 ` David S. Miller
2005-09-01 22:53 ` Ion Badulescu
2005-09-01 23:37 ` Jesper Juhl
2005-09-02 2:51 ` John Heffner [this message]
2005-09-02 6:28 ` David S. Miller
2005-09-02 14:05 ` lists
2005-09-02 14:10 ` John Heffner
2005-09-02 14:33 ` lists
2005-09-02 14:48 ` John Heffner
2005-09-02 15:43 ` Ion Badulescu
2005-09-02 13:02 ` Guillaume Autran
2005-09-02 13:48 ` Ion Badulescu
2005-09-02 13:52 ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2005-09-02 14:11 ` John Heffner
2005-09-02 13:48 ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2005-09-02 14:16 ` John Heffner
2005-09-02 15:11 ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2005-09-02 18:36 ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2005-09-02 20:57 ` Ion Badulescu
2005-09-02 21:18 ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2005-09-02 23:09 ` Ion Badulescu
2005-09-28 16:31 ` Ion Badulescu
2005-09-29 15:17 ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2005-09-29 15:34 ` Guillaume Autran
2005-09-29 16:04 ` John Heffner
2005-09-29 18:16 ` David S. Miller
2005-09-30 0:29 ` David S. Miller
2005-09-02 4:51 ` Noritoshi Demizu
2005-09-02 5:20 ` Stephen Hemminger
2005-09-02 5:45 ` Noritoshi Demizu
2005-09-02 6:11 ` Noritoshi Demizu
2005-09-02 12:11 ` Ion Badulescu
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