From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Cc: Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, ryan.roberts@arm.com,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 6/7] mm: Optimize mprotect() by PTE batching
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2025 10:19:02 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2d213b5c-555e-4a4c-92bc-58ca8480ca64@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aJMPOTripINrafxh@willie-the-truck>
On 06.08.25 10:15, Will Deacon wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 06, 2025 at 10:08:33AM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> On 18.07.25 11:02, Dev Jain wrote:
>>> Use folio_pte_batch to batch process a large folio. Note that, PTE
>>> batching here will save a few function calls, and this strategy in certain
>>> cases (not this one) batches atomic operations in general, so we have
>>> a performance win for all arches. This patch paves the way for patch 7
>>> which will help us elide the TLBI per contig block on arm64.
>>>
>>> The correctness of this patch lies on the correctness of setting the
>>> new ptes based upon information only from the first pte of the batch
>>> (which may also have accumulated a/d bits via modify_prot_start_ptes()).
>>>
>>> Observe that the flag combination we pass to mprotect_folio_pte_batch()
>>> guarantees that the batch is uniform w.r.t the soft-dirty bit and the
>>> writable bit. Therefore, the only bits which may differ are the a/d bits.
>>> So we only need to worry about code which is concerned about the a/d bits
>>> of the PTEs.
>>>
>>> Setting extra a/d bits on the new ptes where previously they were not set,
>>> is fine - setting access bit when it was not set is not an incorrectness
>>> problem but will only possibly delay the reclaim of the page mapped by
>>> the pte (which is in fact intended because the kernel just operated on this
>>> region via mprotect()!). Setting dirty bit when it was not set is again
>>> not an incorrectness problem but will only possibly force an unnecessary
>>> writeback.
>>>
>>> So now we need to reason whether something can go wrong via
>>> can_change_pte_writable(). The pte_protnone, pte_needs_soft_dirty_wp,
>>> and userfaultfd_pte_wp cases are solved due to uniformity in the
>>> corresponding bits guaranteed by the flag combination. The ptes all
>>> belong to the same VMA (since callers guarantee that [start, end) will
>>> lie within the VMA) therefore the conditional based on the VMA is also
>>> safe to batch around.
>>>
>>> Since the dirty bit on the PTE really is just an indication that the folio
>>> got written to - even if the PTE is not actually dirty but one of the PTEs
>>> in the batch is, the wp-fault optimization can be made. Therefore, it is
>>> safe to batch around pte_dirty() in can_change_shared_pte_writable()
>>> (in fact this is better since without batching, it may happen that
>>> some ptes aren't changed to writable just because they are not dirty,
>>> even though the other ptes mapping the same large folio are dirty).
>>>
>>> To batch around the PageAnonExclusive case, we must check the corresponding
>>> condition for every single page. Therefore, from the large folio batch,
>>> we process sub batches of ptes mapping pages with the same
>>> PageAnonExclusive condition, and process that sub batch, then determine
>>> and process the next sub batch, and so on. Note that this does not cause
>>> any extra overhead; if suppose the size of the folio batch is 512, then
>>> the sub batch processing in total will take 512 iterations, which is the
>>> same as what we would have done before.
>>>
>>> For pte_needs_flush():
>>>
>>> ppc does not care about the a/d bits.
>>>
>>> For x86, PAGE_SAVED_DIRTY is ignored. We will flush only when a/d bits
>>> get cleared; since we can only have extra a/d bits due to batching,
>>> we will only have an extra flush, not a case where we elide a flush due
>>> to batching when we shouldn't have.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>
>>
>>
>> I wanted to review this, but looks like it's already upstream and I suspect
>> it's buggy (see the upstream report I cc'ed you on)
>
> Please excuse my laziness, but do you have a link to the report?
I was lazy :)
https://lkml.kernel.org/r/68930511.050a0220.7f033.003a.GAE@google.com
> I've
> been looking at some oddities on arm64 coming back from some of the CI
> systems and was heading in the direction of a recent mm regression
> judging by the first-known-bad-build in linux-next.
>
> https://lore.kernel.org/r/CA+G9fYumD2MGjECCv0wx2V_96_FKNtFQpT63qVNrrCmomoPYVQ@mail.gmail.com
Hm, mprotect seems to be involved. So it might or might not correlate.
--
Cheers,
David / dhildenb
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-08-06 8:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-07-18 9:02 [PATCH v5 0/7] Optimize mprotect() for large folios Dev Jain
2025-07-18 9:02 ` [PATCH v5 1/7] mm: Refactor MM_CP_PROT_NUMA skipping case into new function Dev Jain
2025-07-18 16:19 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-20 23:44 ` Barry Song
2025-07-21 3:44 ` Dev Jain
2025-07-22 11:05 ` Dev Jain
2025-07-22 11:25 ` Ryan Roberts
2025-07-23 13:57 ` Zi Yan
2025-07-18 9:02 ` [PATCH v5 2/7] mm: Optimize mprotect() for MM_CP_PROT_NUMA by batch-skipping PTEs Dev Jain
2025-07-18 16:40 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-22 11:26 ` Ryan Roberts
2025-07-23 14:25 ` Zi Yan
2025-07-18 9:02 ` [PATCH v5 3/7] mm: Add batched versions of ptep_modify_prot_start/commit Dev Jain
2025-07-18 17:05 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-20 23:59 ` Barry Song
2025-07-22 11:35 ` Ryan Roberts
2025-07-23 15:09 ` Zi Yan
2025-07-18 9:02 ` [PATCH v5 4/7] mm: Introduce FPB_RESPECT_WRITE for PTE batching infrastructure Dev Jain
2025-07-18 17:12 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-22 11:37 ` Ryan Roberts
2025-07-23 15:28 ` Zi Yan
2025-07-23 15:32 ` Dev Jain
2025-07-18 9:02 ` [PATCH v5 5/7] mm: Split can_change_pte_writable() into private and shared parts Dev Jain
2025-07-18 17:27 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-23 15:40 ` Zi Yan
2025-07-18 9:02 ` [PATCH v5 6/7] mm: Optimize mprotect() by PTE batching Dev Jain
2025-07-18 18:49 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-19 13:46 ` Dev Jain
2025-07-20 11:20 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-20 14:39 ` Dev Jain
2025-07-24 19:55 ` Zi Yan
2025-08-06 8:08 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-06 8:12 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-06 8:15 ` Will Deacon
2025-08-06 8:19 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-08-06 8:53 ` Dev Jain
2025-08-06 8:56 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-06 9:12 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-06 9:21 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-06 9:37 ` Dev Jain
2025-08-06 9:50 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-06 10:11 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-06 10:20 ` Dev Jain
2025-08-06 10:28 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-06 10:45 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-06 10:45 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
[not found] ` <1b3d4799-2a57-4f16-973b-82fc7b438862@arm.com>
2025-08-06 10:07 ` Dev Jain
2025-08-06 10:12 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-18 9:02 ` [PATCH v5 7/7] arm64: Add batched versions of ptep_modify_prot_start/commit Dev Jain
2025-07-18 18:50 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-21 15:57 ` Catalin Marinas
2025-07-18 9:50 ` [PATCH v5 0/7] Optimize mprotect() for large folios Dev Jain
2025-07-18 18:53 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
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