Re: Support for RMS and criticism of the bottom-up/social contract power grab attempt. - Why fewer contributors?

Re: Support for RMS and criticism of the bottom-up/social contract power grab attempt. - Why fewer contributors?

[gameonlinux]

Bird in the hand is worth three in the bush.

You have men contributing to GNU now.
You want to bend them to obey women's speech codes, so you "can get more 
women".
You do not value your male contributors: you take them for granted.

Reasons fewer men contribute to GNU:
Have to reveal identity.
Have to assign copyright (a submissive act).

Reasons very few women contribute to GNU:
Have to reveal identity.
Have to assign copyright.
Too many "loser" men involved.

RMS's previous statements that the woman finds "disgusting" were fine.
I'm sad he walked them back.

Most old religions allowed men to marry young girls.
See: Devarim chapter 22, verse 28.
(Masoretic Text: Na'ar) (Nachmanides points out that a child may be 
called na'ar from the moment he is born.)
(Greek Septuagint: Padia) (padia+philos = paedophillia)
(Latin Vulgate: Puella (young girl))

Bukari Hadiths book 5, hadith number 200+ or so (Ashia's age at 
marriage)

Vedic tradition (father who fails to marry his daughter by 12 or 9 goes 
to a hell)


American men prevent all this, in keeping with their crusade against the 
beliefs of the rest of the world; to bend it into something that is 
"safe" for their "democracy" (white women ruling the world, with her 
unleashed dog (he is leashed and muzzled at home, ofcourse)
Islam will probably win, however, and bring it back. We had hoped the 
Jews would have been successful in doing so, but they were unable to 
bring freedom and have given up now. They tried very hard however (60s, 
70s, 80s), but were violently beaten back by the Proud American Men in 
the latter 80s, 90s, 2000s, 2010s.

RMS's now-reversed views were perhaps part of that wider liberation 
attempt. But what has he gotten for it? He's given up that attempt now, 
sadly. But what can you do? America only cares about the happiness of 
it's white women: it cares nothing for males who are simply beasts of 
burden to "provide" for the woman, under the American religion. (It 
cares even less for everyone else: who it sets the dogs on)

The Muslims will solve it all, I'm glad the politicians brought them in. 
They also don't rip you off when you get your car fixed: very honest in 
business from my view.

> Nachmanides points out that a child may be called na'ar from the moment
> he is born.
> https://ohr.edu/ask_db/ask_main.php/179/Q3/

----

I wish RMS could have a nice marriage.
Ruben Safir: could you help him in that, from your community.
The American Men and Women have attacked him and "canceled" him; after 
all he's done for them.


On 2019-11-04 11:28, Alexandre François Garreau wrote:
> Le lundi 4 novembre 2019 12:11:40 CET, vous avez écrit :
>> * Alexandre François Garreau <galex-713@galex-713.eu> [2019-11-04 
>> 11:52]:
>> > Le lundi 4 novembre 2019 10:50:56 CET, vous avez écrit :
>> > > * Federico Leva <nemowiki@gmail.com> [2019-11-04 09:02]:
>> > > > Alexandre François Garreau, 01/11/19 18:30:
>> > > > > Though women participate in GNU,
>> > > > > are any of them fortunately software package maintainer?
>> > > > > Unfortunately,
>> > > > > I’m
>> > > > > not sure about this :/
>> > >
>> > > LibrePlanet media is good place to see that it is not male society:
>> > > https://media.libreplanet.org/
>> > >
>> > > There is no discrimination. Package maintainer are not looked upon
>> > > because of their gender.
>> >
>> > I think people may be worried about either internal inconscious, unwilling
>> > discrimination, either about external discrimination that might make women
>> > dislike that place.
>> 
>> Do you mean ""unconscious" with "inconscious"? I don't share opinion
>> that internal uncoscious unwilling discrimination is making worry to
>> anybody. Such statement is based on imagination or could be said to be
>> fabrication.
> 
> I think women (and more generally, contributors, and stable ones) are 
> even too
> few to see any formal preference of anybody over anybody within GNU 
> yet.
> 
>> External discrimination is maybe what you think as "public"
>> discrimination, such does not exist in GNU project, and statement
>> falls into fabrications.
> 
> No, external means external to GNU, not coming from GNU members, but 
> from
> women who might not want to join.  And that could be caused because of 
> stuff
> internal to GNU (image, atmosphere, etc.).  That’s the position of the
> signatories of the Joint statement, I think.

Re: Support for RMS and criticism of the bottom-up/social contract power grab attempt. - Why fewer contributors?

[Jean Louis]

Religion, politics, and mentalities of various countries are not
subject of GNU free operating system and development of software.

Yet all of those subjects can benefit and get use of free software
philosophy and free software.

* gameonlinux@redchan.it <gameonlinux@redchan.it> [2019-11-04 12:56]:
> Reasons fewer men contribute to GNU:
> Have to reveal identity.

That is not quite so. In America country it is possible to use pen
names.

> Have to assign copyright (a submissive act).

That is not submissive act but legal act and cooperation. It is
necessary for cases of legal enforcement where evidences have to be
shown in courts of law. Finally, copyrights laws are different from
country to country, it requires a lot of paper work to really be able
to legally defend such cases.

> American men prevent all this, in keeping with their crusade against the
> beliefs of the rest of the world; to bend it into something that is "safe"
> for their "democracy" (white women ruling the world, with her unleashed dog
> (he is leashed and muzzled at home, ofcourse)

I understand your feelings, but the discussion is not place for
animosity and hatred towards any group of people. Be it American,
"white women" ruling the world, and so on. Please refrain. It is not
nice to call people that way. This is not a political party. You are
free to organize such but please outside of the GNU.

> Islam will probably win, however, and bring it back. We had hoped the Jews
> would have been successful in doing so, but they were unable to bring
> freedom and have given up now. They tried very hard however (60s, 70s, 80s),
> but were violently beaten back by the Proud American Men in the latter 80s,
> 90s, 2000s, 2010s.

GNU project is not about sharing views on any politics, including
racial, national, religious views, all that does not matter, please
try to avoid that discussion, if possible, publish it on your blog.

See here:

GNU Kind Communications Guidelines: 
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/kind-communication.html

Re: Support for RMS and criticism of the bottom-up/social contract power grab attempt. - Why fewer contributors?

[Ruben Safir]

On 11/4/19 6:55 AM, gameonlinux@redchan.it wrote:
> 
> The Muslims will solve it all, I'm glad the politicians brought them in.
> They also don't rip you off when you get your car fixed: very honest in
> business from my view.


uggg


-- 
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that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
http://www.mrbrklyn.com
DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002

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http://www.brooklyn-living.com

Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps,
but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013

Re: Support for RMS and criticism of the bottom-up/social contract power grab attempt. - Why fewer contributors?

[gameonlinux]

I'm sorry Ruben, it's just how it has to be.
Your guys tried hard to realize liberation, but failed.

So it has to be done the other way.
I want a young girl bride no matter what, so do the European and other 
Politicians.

The _sunni_ muslims do not bend on this: they're all for it.
Every single other group that was tried has bent.

You guys tried hard though, and almost made it happen, but you were 
beaten back.
Thank you for your service. Even RMS has bent the knee now though.
Oh, and I notice you played Crossfire-RPG (photo on your website); I 
used to be on the dev team there: made tons of maps for them (also did 
pixel art, and did scripting etc later, the latter mostly for my own 
extended fork). Small world.

On 2019-11-04 22:02, Ruben Safir wrote:
> On 11/4/19 6:55 AM, gameonlinux@redchan.it wrote:
>> 
>> The Muslims will solve it all, I'm glad the politicians brought them 
>> in.
>> They also don't rip you off when you get your car fixed: very honest 
>> in
>> business from my view.
> 
> 
> uggg

Re: Support for RMS and criticism of the bottom-up/social contract power grab attempt. - Why fewer contributors?

[Ruben Safir]

On Tue, Nov 05, 2019 at 12:52:44AM +0000, gameonlinux@redchan.it wrote:
> I'm sorry Ruben, it's just how it has to be.
> Your guys tried hard to realize liberation, but failed.
> 
> So it has to be done the other way.
> I want a young girl bride no matter what, so do the European and other
> Politicians.
> 
> The _sunni_ muslims do not bend on this: they're all for it.
> Every single other group that was tried has bent.
> 
> You guys tried hard though, and almost made it happen, but you were beaten
> back.
> Thank you for your service. Even RMS has bent the knee now though.
> Oh, and I notice you played Crossfire-RPG (photo on your website); I used to
> be on the dev team there: made tons of maps for them (also did pixel art,
> and did scripting etc later, the latter mostly for my own extended fork).
> Small world.


Welcome to my /dev/null

> 
> On 2019-11-04 22:02, Ruben Safir wrote:
> > On 11/4/19 6:55 AM, gameonlinux@redchan.it wrote:
> > > 
> > > The Muslims will solve it all, I'm glad the politicians brought them
> > > in.
> > > They also don't rip you off when you get your car fixed: very honest
> > > in
> > > business from my view.
> > 
> > 
> > uggg

Re: Is negative publicity always harmful? - I support RMS' past "pro-paedo" statements

[nipponmail]

On 2019-11-08 04:39, chocolatejollis38@gmail.com wrote:
> Go to hell, you nasty, sick, subhuman fuck.
> 

Chocolate Jollis 38 at gmail.com:
We all die and go to Sheol eventually.
(Except, perhaps, Prophets, here and there)
(RMS is our Software Prophet)

If you think I am "subhuman", judge me on my merits: this is my current 
free software project: libregamewiki.org/Chaos_Esque_Anthology . I 
brought it from 18 weapons to over 200, from 3 vehicles to 30, from 0 
spells to over 50, added city generation, built the building models 
(which include interiors), built the level-of-detail models for such 
things, added RTS style building, and mine-craft-style block building, 
added furnishings, and made 50 levels myself. (And of, course, over 100 
other models needed, and music, and 2 texturesets I made). All of it is 
free software and free media (GPL2, GPL3, CC-BY, CC-BY-SA, etc)

I absolutely support RMS' past "pro-paedo" statements, so do many of us 
men in the programming and hacker communities. I want RMS to know that, 
instead of having input only from what are called "normies" today. None 
of his statements were wrong, but you guys pressured him and pushed him 
and got him to recant.

And then you attacked him anyway and got him thrown out of his home of 
40 years. Because you're you. That's what "Your kind" does. Just like my 
"subhuman" kind writes free software for decades, and supports 
immigration to turn your terrible societies into a society where men can 
be happy.


>> On Nov 7, 2019, at 10:20 AM, gameonlinux@redchan.it wrote:
>> 
>> \ufeff[Looks like everyone's going all-in in this thread, so be it]
>> 
>> I am glad RMS made past pro-paedophile statements. I support them, as 
>> a man, and as an enemy of women who want men to be equal or servile to 
>> women.
>> 
>> The Torah explicitly allows men to marry female children, including in 
>> cases of the rape (tahphas) of the girl child: Devarim chapter 22, 
>> verse 28. Key words: Na'ar (child (hebrew masoretic text)), Padia 
>> (child: padia+philos = paedophillia (greek septuagint)) Puella (young 
>> girl (latin vulgate))
>> 
>>> Nachmanides points out that a child may be called na'ar from the 
>>> moment he is born.
>> 
>> Sunni Islam also allows child brides: Bukari Hadith book 5. Ashia was 
>> a child when she married Muhammed:
>> Sahih Bukhari 5:58:236
>> Sahih Bukhari 7:62:64
>> Sahih Bukhari 8:73:151
>> 
>> The vedic traditions also allow, or require, child marraige: saying 
>> that if a man fails to marry his daughter off by 9 or 12 he goes to 
>> hell.
>> 
>> I am a prolific free-software hacker and have been so for 20 years. 
>> (My current project is: libregamewiki.org/Chaos_Esque_Anthology , 
>> where I brought the project from 18 weapons to over 200, added spell 
>> casting, city generation, built many maps(50+) and 3d models (100+), 
>> along with textures, music, etc)
>> I am also a licensed attorney.
>> 
>> I support RMS' past statements regarding paedophillia, and am saddened 
>> and hurt that he has retracted them and has stepped away on the path 
>> to eventually presumably endorsing the jailing, torture, and killing 
>> of man-on-girl (AKA: virgin marraige) paedophiles: in keeping with the 
>> religion of his despicable country and the rulers there-of (said 
>> country's women)
>> 
>> Why RMS? Why?
>> Man+girl is GOOD for men.
>> It's BAD for women.
>> Man being an economic slave to woman is GOOD for women, and BAD for 
>> men. There is no happy middle ground.
>> 
>>> On 2019-11-06 02:54, Ruben Safir wrote:
>>>> On 11/5/19 4:02 PM, Thompson, David wrote:
>>>> Maybe this would be a reasonable request if we ignored all the 
>>>> context
>>>> of what has transpired in the past month or so (which, we must not
>>>> forget, was just the straw that broke the camel's back after *years*
>>>> of problematic behavior),
>>> there has been NO problematic behavior by RMS.  You would never have
>>> survived 30+ years in the spotlight like he has.  He has been rock 
>>> solid
>>> and saying otherwise don't give it any ground.

Re: Is negative publicity always harmful? - I support RMS' past "pro-paedo" statements

[gameonlinux]

On 2019-11-08 04:39, chocolatejollis38@gmail.com wrote:
> Go to hell, you nasty, sick, subhuman fuck.
> 

Chocolate Jollis 38 at gmail.com:
We all die and go to Sheol eventually.
(Except, perhaps, Prophets, here and there)
(RMS is our Software Prophet)

If you think I am "subhuman", judge me on my merits: this is my current 
free software project: libregamewiki.org/Chaos_Esque_Anthology . I 
brought it from 18 weapons to over 200, from 3 vehicles to 30, from 0 
spells to over 50, added city generation, built the building models 
(which include interiors), built the level-of-detail models for such 
things, added RTS style building, and mine-craft-style block building, 
added furnishings, and made 50 levels myself. (And of, course, over 100 
other models needed, and music, and 2 texturesets I made). All of it is 
free software and free media (GPL2, GPL3, CC-BY, CC-BY-SA, etc)

I absolutely support RMS' past "pro-paedo" statements, so do many of us 
men in the programming and hacker communities. I want RMS to know that, 
instead of having input only from what are called "normies" today. None 
of his statements were wrong, but you guys pressured him and pushed him 
and got him to recant.

And then you attacked him anyway and got him thrown out of his home of 
40 years. Because you're you. That's what "Your kind" does. Just like my 
"subhuman" kind writes free software for decades, and supports 
immigration to turn your terrible societies into a society where men can 
be happy.


>> On Nov 7, 2019, at 10:20 AM, gameonlinux@redchan.it wrote:
>> 
>> [Looks like everyone's going all-in in this thread, so be it]
>> 
>> I am glad RMS made past pro-paedophile statements. I support them, as 
>> a man, and as an enemy of women who want men to be equal or servile to 
>> women.
>> 
>> The Torah explicitly allows men to marry female children, including in 
>> cases of the rape (tahphas) of the girl child: Devarim chapter 22, 
>> verse 28. Key words: Na'ar (child (hebrew masoretic text)), Padia 
>> (child: padia+philos = paedophillia (greek septuagint)) Puella (young 
>> girl (latin vulgate))
>> 
>>> Nachmanides points out that a child may be called na'ar from the 
>>> moment he is born.
>> 
>> Sunni Islam also allows child brides: Bukari Hadith book 5. Ashia was 
>> a child when she married Muhammed:
>> Sahih Bukhari 5:58:236
>> Sahih Bukhari 7:62:64
>> Sahih Bukhari 8:73:151
>> 
>> The vedic traditions also allow, or require, child marraige: saying 
>> that if a man fails to marry his daughter off by 9 or 12 he goes to 
>> hell.
>> 
>> I am a prolific free-software hacker and have been so for 20 years. 
>> (My current project is: libregamewiki.org/Chaos_Esque_Anthology , 
>> where I brought the project from 18 weapons to over 200, added spell 
>> casting, city generation, built many maps(50+) and 3d models (100+), 
>> along with textures, music, etc)
>> I am also a licensed attorney.
>> 
>> I support RMS' past statements regarding paedophillia, and am saddened 
>> and hurt that he has retracted them and has stepped away on the path 
>> to eventually presumably endorsing the jailing, torture, and killing 
>> of man-on-girl (AKA: virgin marraige) paedophiles: in keeping with the 
>> religion of his despicable country and the rulers there-of (said 
>> country's women)
>> 
>> Why RMS? Why?
>> Man+girl is GOOD for men.
>> It's BAD for women.
>> Man being an economic slave to woman is GOOD for women, and BAD for 
>> men. There is no happy middle ground.
>> 
>>> On 2019-11-06 02:54, Ruben Safir wrote:
>>>> On 11/5/19 4:02 PM, Thompson, David wrote:
>>>> Maybe this would be a reasonable request if we ignored all the 
>>>> context
>>>> of what has transpired in the past month or so (which, we must not
>>>> forget, was just the straw that broke the camel's back after *years*
>>>> of problematic behavior),
>>> there has been NO problematic behavior by RMS.  You would never have
>>> survived 30+ years in the spotlight like he has.  He has been rock 
>>> solid
>>> and saying otherwise don't give it any ground.