From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: "Krzysztof Hałasa" <khalasa@piap.pl>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
Felipe Balbi <balbi@kernel.org>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Felipe Balbi <balbi@ti.com>,
Haojian Zhuang <haojian.zhuang@gmail.com>,
Daniel Mack <daniel@zonque.org>, Imre Kaloz <kaloz@openwrt.org>,
Robert Jarzmik <robert.jarzmik@free.fr>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/7] usb: gadget: pxa25x_udc: use readl/writel for mmio
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 14:55:43 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3062977.Ya2ztQYFaM@wuerfel> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m34md8rdol.fsf@t19.piap.pl>
On Tuesday 16 February 2016 14:24:10 Krzysztof Hałasa wrote:
> Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> writes:
>
> > Both writes leave the CPU core within the spinlock but are not serialized
> > with anything else, so there is no ordering between the CPUs when they
> > enter the shared bus, other than having address before data. You'd
> > expect to see address0, data0, address1, data1, but it could also
> > be e.g. address0, address1, data1, data0.
>
> Ah, so it's a matter of flushing the write buffers before exiting the
> spinlock-protected code.
Yes, whatever the specific architecture requires. The normal readl()
functions are documented to having all the required barriers and
flushes, the __raw_* variants may (e.g. on x86) or may not have that.
> > The point is more what the common case is. Almost all machines we support
> > have fixed-endian devices, and the drivers are correct when using readl()
> > or in_le32() but are not endian-safe when using __raw_readl().
>
> Sure, e.g. PCI does it this way (eventually swapping the data lanes if
> needed).
>
> > Using __raw_readl() has the big danger of someone accidentally "fixing"
> > the driver to work like all the others in order to solve a theoretical
> > endian problem, while it should really be made obvious that the hardware
> > actively swaps its data on the bus.
>
> Sure - if this is the case. On-chip IXP4xx peripherals don't swap data
> at all (i.e., they match CPU endianess) - accessing their registers is
> like accessing a normal CPU register. That's why they don't use
> PCI-style readl() etc. - however a better name than __raw_* would
> probably help here.
>
> Using __raw_* in a PCI driver would be generally wrong.
I was really talking about built-in devices here. There are other platforms
that have an internal byteswap logic on the bus interface and they also
use that for PCI, see e.g. arch/sh/include/mach-common/mach/mangle-port.h.
ixp4xx is really special in that it performs hardware swapping for
internal devices based on CPU endianess but not on PCI devices.
I think some Broadcom MIPS systems are in the same category as IXP4xx,
but only because they have an extra byteswap on the PCI bus that they
can turn on, but very few other systems are.
Coming back to the specific pxa25x_udc case: using __raw_* accessors
in the driver would possibly end up breaking the PXA25x machines in
the (very unlikely) case that someone wants to make it work with
big-endian kernels, assuming it does not have the same hardware
byteswap logic as ixp4xx.
Arnd
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-02-16 13:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-01-28 16:15 [PATCH 0/7] USB changes for rare warnings Arnd Bergmann
2016-01-28 16:17 ` [PATCH 1/7] usb: gadget: pxa25x_udc: move register definitions from arch Arnd Bergmann
2016-01-28 16:17 ` [PATCH 2/7] usb: gadget: pxa25x_udc cleanup Arnd Bergmann
2016-01-29 10:13 ` Robert Jarzmik
2016-01-28 16:17 ` [PATCH 3/7] usb: gadget: pxa25x_udc: use readl/writel for mmio Arnd Bergmann
2016-01-29 10:17 ` Robert Jarzmik
2016-01-29 16:18 ` Krzysztof Hałasa
2016-01-29 17:06 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-02-15 7:33 ` Krzysztof Hałasa
2016-02-15 9:33 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-02-15 13:51 ` Krzysztof Hałasa
2016-02-15 16:12 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-02-16 9:26 ` Krzysztof Hałasa
2016-02-16 11:26 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-02-16 13:24 ` Krzysztof Hałasa
2016-02-16 13:55 ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2016-02-17 8:36 ` Krzysztof Hałasa
2016-02-17 10:36 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-02-17 16:14 ` Krzysztof Hałasa
2016-02-20 20:54 ` Robert Jarzmik
2016-01-29 18:03 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2016-01-29 21:02 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-01-29 9:32 ` [PATCH 1/7] usb: gadget: pxa25x_udc: move register definitions from arch Robert Jarzmik
2016-01-29 10:07 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-01-29 15:26 ` Robert Jarzmik
2016-01-29 15:55 ` Krzysztof Hałasa
2016-02-17 15:08 ` Felipe Balbi
2016-02-17 16:00 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-01-28 16:20 ` [PATCH 4/7] usb: fsl: drop USB_FSL_MPH_DR_OF Kconfig symbol Arnd Bergmann
2016-01-28 16:23 ` [PATCH 5/7] usb: isp1301-omap: mark power_up as __maybe_unused Arnd Bergmann
2016-01-28 16:23 ` [PATCH 6/7] usb: musb: use %pad format string from dma_addr_t Arnd Bergmann
2016-01-28 17:50 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-01-28 16:23 ` [PATCH 7/7] usb: musb/ux500: remove duplicate check for dma_is_compatible Arnd Bergmann
2016-02-03 18:12 ` [PATCH 0/7] USB changes for rare warnings Felipe Balbi
2016-02-03 19:15 ` Robert Jarzmik
2016-02-03 20:49 ` Arnd Bergmann
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