From: "Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@aracnet.com>
To: Adam Heath <doogie@debian.org>, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: Chris Wedgwood <cw@f00f.org>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Timothy Miller <miller@techsource.com>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: support of older compilers
Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2004 14:36:10 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <308030000.1099607770@flay> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0411041546160.1229@gradall.private.brainfood.com>
>> > I didn't deny the speed difference of older and newer compilers.
>> >
>> > But why is this an issue when compiling a kernel? How often do you compile
>> > your kernel?
>>
>> First off, for some people that is literally where _most_ of the CPU
>> cycles go.
>
> So find a fast machine. As I have already said, you don't need to compile a
> kernel for a slow machine/arch *on* a slow machine/arch.
>
>> Second, it's not just that the compilers are slower. Historically, new gcc
>> versions are:
>> - slower
>
> Again, that's a straw man.
>
>> - generate worse code
>> - buggier
>
> I don't doubt these are issues. That's not what I am discussing.
Ummm. you asked why people don't use newer compilers, you were told exactly
why. How is that not what you're discussing?
Not breaking older compilers takes very little effort in practice. Why the
hell would you want to break compilation with then?
M.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-11-04 22:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-11-03 21:02 support of older compilers Timothy Miller
2004-11-03 21:13 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-11-03 21:22 ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-11-03 23:06 ` Adam Heath
2004-11-03 23:30 ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-11-04 16:50 ` Adam Heath
2004-11-04 17:00 ` Chris Friesen
2004-11-04 18:17 ` Adam Heath
2004-11-05 20:00 ` Willy Tarreau
2004-11-05 20:28 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-11-05 20:31 ` Willy Tarreau
2004-11-04 17:04 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-11-04 18:15 ` Adam Heath
2004-11-04 18:31 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-11-04 21:56 ` Adam Heath
2004-11-04 18:54 ` Ian Romanick
2004-11-04 19:48 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-11-04 20:14 ` Giuseppe Bilotta
2004-11-05 20:04 ` Willy Tarreau
2004-11-04 19:36 ` Ian Hastie
2004-11-04 20:02 ` Ioan Ionita
2004-11-04 20:03 ` Adrian Bunk
2004-11-04 20:08 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-11-04 19:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-11-04 21:47 ` Adam Heath
2004-11-04 21:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-11-04 23:39 ` Adam Heath
2004-11-04 23:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-11-05 1:41 ` Andries Brouwer
2004-11-05 15:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-11-05 15:47 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-11-05 16:22 ` linux-os
2004-11-05 19:50 ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-11-05 20:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-11-05 21:59 ` Grzegorz Kulewski
2004-11-05 22:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-11-05 23:02 ` [PATCH] change Kconfig entry for RAMFS (Was: Re: support of older compilers) Grzegorz Kulewski
2004-11-05 23:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-11-05 23:44 ` [PATCH] change Kconfig entry for RAMFS Grzegorz Kulewski
2004-11-06 0:48 ` Grzegorz Kulewski
2004-11-09 23:24 ` Matt Mackall
2004-11-10 10:40 ` Grzegorz Kulewski
2004-11-10 20:50 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-11-05 23:27 ` [PATCH] change Kconfig entry for RAMFS (Was: Re: support of older compilers) DaMouse
2004-11-05 23:49 ` Grzegorz Kulewski
2004-11-06 13:59 ` DaMouse
2004-11-05 22:08 ` support of older compilers Hua Zhong
2004-11-06 8:38 ` Willy Tarreau
2004-11-06 9:43 ` Hugh Dickins
2004-11-06 11:04 ` Willy Tarreau
2004-11-05 22:37 ` support of older compilers [u] Martin Schlemmer [c]
2004-11-05 23:14 ` Grzegorz Kulewski
2004-11-05 23:38 ` chibiryuu
2004-11-06 12:07 ` support of older compilers Andries Brouwer
2004-11-06 17:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-11-06 19:36 ` Adrian Bunk
2004-11-06 21:41 ` bloat Andries Brouwer
2004-11-06 22:07 ` bloat Adrian Bunk
2004-11-06 21:30 ` bloat Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2004-11-07 13:37 ` bloat Frank van Maarseveen
2004-11-05 20:20 ` support of older compilers Willy Tarreau
2004-11-05 22:19 ` Adam Heath
2004-11-04 22:36 ` Martin J. Bligh [this message]
2004-11-04 20:48 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-11-04 22:33 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-11-03 21:17 ` Matti Aarnio
2004-11-03 21:37 ` Giacomo A. Catenazzi
2004-11-03 21:57 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-11-04 2:16 ` Miles Bader
2004-11-03 22:07 ` Chris Wedgwood
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-11-04 19:33 Clayton Weaver
2004-11-05 15:36 ` Nix
2004-11-04 22:49 Xose Vazquez Perez
2004-11-06 9:07 Clayton Weaver
2004-11-09 17:39 ` Nix
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2004-11-06 10:15 ` Anton Ertl
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