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From: Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>
To: Finn Thain <fthain@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, geert@linux-m68k.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mhiramat@kernel.org,
	oak@helsinkinet.fi, peterz@infradead.org, stable@vger.kernel.org,
	will@kernel.org, Lance Yang <ioworker0@gmail.com>,
	linux-m68k@lists.linux-m68k.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] atomic: Specify natural alignment for atomic_t
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2025 19:36:51 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <30a55f56-93c2-4408-b1a5-5574984fb45f@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d95592ec-f51e-4d80-b633-7440b4e69944@linux.dev>



On 2025/8/25 19:19, Lance Yang wrote:
> Thanks for digging deeper!
> 
> On 2025/8/25 18:49, Finn Thain wrote:
>>
>> [Belated Cc linux-m68k...]
>>
>> On Mon, 25 Aug 2025, Lance Yang wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On 2025/8/25 14:17, Finn Thain wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 25 Aug 2025, Lance Yang wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What if we squash the runtime check fix into your patch?
>>>>
>>>> Did my patch not solve the problem?
>>>
>>> Hmm... it should solve the problem for natural alignment, which is a
>>> critical fix.
>>>
>>> But it cannot solve the problem of forced misalignment from drivers
>>> using #pragma pack(1). The runtime warning will still trigger in those
>>> cases.
>>>
>>> I built a simple test module on a kernel with your patch applied:
>>>
>>> ```
>>> #include <linux/module.h>
>>> #include <linux/init.h>
>>>
>>> struct __attribute__((packed)) test_container {
>>>      char padding[49];
>>>      struct mutex io_lock;
>>> };
>>>
>>> static int __init alignment_init(void)
>>> {
>>>      struct test_container cont;
>>>      pr_info("io_lock address offset mod 4: %lu\n", (unsigned 
>>> long)&cont.io_lock % 4);
>>>      return 0;
>>> }
>>>
>>> static void __exit alignment_exit(void)
>>> {
>>>      pr_info("Module unloaded\n");
>>> }
>>>
>>> module_init(alignment_init);
>>> module_exit(alignment_exit);
>>> MODULE_LICENSE("GPL");
>>> MODULE_AUTHOR("x");
>>> MODULE_DESCRIPTION("x");
>>> ```
>>>
>>> Result from dmesg:
>>> [Mon Aug 25 15:44:50 2025] io_lock address offset mod 4: 1
>>>
>>
>> Thanks for sending code to illustrate your point. Unfortunately, I was 
>> not
>> able to reproduce your results. Tested on x86, your test module shows no
>> misalignment:
>>
>> [131840.349042] io_lock address offset mod 4: 0
>>
>> Tested on m68k I also get 0, given the patch at the top of this thread:
>>
>> [    0.400000] io_lock address offset mod 4: 0
>>
>>>
>>> As we can see, a packed struct can still force the entire mutex object
>>> to an unaligned address. With an address like this, the WARN_ON_ONCE can
>>> still be triggered.
> 
>>
>> I don't think so. But there is something unexpected going on here -- the
>> output from pahole appears to say io_lock is at offset 49, which seems to
>> contradict the printk() output above.
> 
> Interesting! That contradiction is the key. It seems we're seeing different
> compiler behaviors.
> 
> I'm on GCC 14.2.0 (Debian 14.2.0-19), and it appears to be strictly 
> respecting
> the packed attribute.
> 
> So let's print something more:
> 
> ```
> #include <linux/module.h>
> #include <linux/init.h>
> 
> struct __attribute__((packed)) test_container {
>      char padding[49];
>      struct mutex io_lock;
> };
> 
> static int __init alignment_init(void)
> {
>      struct test_container cont;
>      pr_info("Container base address      : %px\n", &cont);
>      pr_info("io_lock member address      : %px\n", &cont.io_lock);
>      pr_info("io_lock address offset mod 4: %lu\n", (unsigned 
> long)&cont.io_lock % 4);
>      return 0;
> }
> 
> static void __exit alignment_exit(void)
> {
>      pr_info("Module unloaded\n");
> }
> 
> module_init(alignment_init);
> module_exit(alignment_exit);
> MODULE_LICENSE("GPL");
> MODULE_AUTHOR("x");
> MODULE_DESCRIPTION("x");
> ```
> 
> Result from dmesg:
> 
> ```
> [Mon Aug 25 19:15:33 2025] Container base address      : ff1100063570f840
> [Mon Aug 25 19:15:33 2025] io_lock member address      : ff1100063570f871
> [Mon Aug 25 19:15:33 2025] io_lock address offset mod 4: 1
> ```
> 
> io_lock is exactly base + 49, resulting in misalignment.
> 
> Seems like your compiler is cleverly re-aligning the whole struct on the
> stack, but we can't rely on that behavior, as it's not guaranteed across
> all compilers or versions. wdyt?


Same here, using a global static variable instead of a local one. The result
is consistently misaligned.

```
#include <linux/module.h>
#include <linux/init.h>

static struct __attribute__((packed)) test_container {
     char padding[49];
     struct mutex io_lock;
} cont;

static int __init alignment_init(void)
{
     pr_info("Container base address      : %px\n", &cont);
     pr_info("io_lock member address      : %px\n", &cont.io_lock);
     pr_info("io_lock address offset mod 4: %lu\n", (unsigned 
long)&cont.io_lock % 4);
     return 0;
}

static void __exit alignment_exit(void)
{
     pr_info("Module unloaded\n");
}

module_init(alignment_init);
module_exit(alignment_exit);
MODULE_LICENSE("GPL");
MODULE_AUTHOR("x");
MODULE_DESCRIPTION("x");
```

Result from dmesg:

```
[Mon Aug 25 19:33:28 2025] Container base address      : ffffffffc28f0940
[Mon Aug 25 19:33:28 2025] io_lock member address      : ffffffffc28f0971
[Mon Aug 25 19:33:28 2025] io_lock address offset mod 4: 1
```

  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-25 11:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-25  2:03 [PATCH] atomic: Specify natural alignment for atomic_t Finn Thain
2025-08-25  3:27 ` Lance Yang
2025-08-25  3:59   ` Finn Thain
2025-08-25  4:22     ` Lance Yang
2025-08-25  4:07   ` Finn Thain
2025-08-25  5:00     ` Lance Yang
2025-08-25  6:17       ` Finn Thain
2025-08-25  7:46         ` Lance Yang
2025-08-25 10:49           ` Finn Thain
2025-08-25 11:19             ` Lance Yang
2025-08-25 11:36               ` Lance Yang [this message]
2025-08-27 23:43                 ` Finn Thain
2025-08-28  2:05                   ` Lance Yang
2025-09-01  8:45                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-09-02 13:30                       ` Lance Yang
2025-09-02 14:14                         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-08-25 12:07           ` David Laight
2025-08-25 12:33             ` Lance Yang
2025-08-27  8:00               ` Finn Thain
2025-08-27  9:34                 ` Lance Yang
2025-09-01  8:48             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-08-25  7:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-08-25  8:03   ` Finn Thain
2025-08-25 11:41     ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-08-27  7:17       ` Finn Thain
2025-08-27 11:54         ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-08-28  9:53           ` Finn Thain
2025-09-01  9:36             ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-09-01  9:40               ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-08-26 15:22 ` Eero Tamminen
2025-08-26 17:33   ` Lance Yang
2025-09-01  8:51   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-09-01 15:12     ` Eero Tamminen
2025-08-27  2:45 ` Masami Hiramatsu

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