From: Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>
To: Finn Thain <fthain@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, geert@linux-m68k.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mhiramat@kernel.org,
oak@helsinkinet.fi, peterz@infradead.org, stable@vger.kernel.org,
will@kernel.org, Lance Yang <ioworker0@gmail.com>,
linux-m68k@lists.linux-m68k.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] atomic: Specify natural alignment for atomic_t
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2025 19:36:51 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <30a55f56-93c2-4408-b1a5-5574984fb45f@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d95592ec-f51e-4d80-b633-7440b4e69944@linux.dev>
On 2025/8/25 19:19, Lance Yang wrote:
> Thanks for digging deeper!
>
> On 2025/8/25 18:49, Finn Thain wrote:
>>
>> [Belated Cc linux-m68k...]
>>
>> On Mon, 25 Aug 2025, Lance Yang wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On 2025/8/25 14:17, Finn Thain wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 25 Aug 2025, Lance Yang wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What if we squash the runtime check fix into your patch?
>>>>
>>>> Did my patch not solve the problem?
>>>
>>> Hmm... it should solve the problem for natural alignment, which is a
>>> critical fix.
>>>
>>> But it cannot solve the problem of forced misalignment from drivers
>>> using #pragma pack(1). The runtime warning will still trigger in those
>>> cases.
>>>
>>> I built a simple test module on a kernel with your patch applied:
>>>
>>> ```
>>> #include <linux/module.h>
>>> #include <linux/init.h>
>>>
>>> struct __attribute__((packed)) test_container {
>>> char padding[49];
>>> struct mutex io_lock;
>>> };
>>>
>>> static int __init alignment_init(void)
>>> {
>>> struct test_container cont;
>>> pr_info("io_lock address offset mod 4: %lu\n", (unsigned
>>> long)&cont.io_lock % 4);
>>> return 0;
>>> }
>>>
>>> static void __exit alignment_exit(void)
>>> {
>>> pr_info("Module unloaded\n");
>>> }
>>>
>>> module_init(alignment_init);
>>> module_exit(alignment_exit);
>>> MODULE_LICENSE("GPL");
>>> MODULE_AUTHOR("x");
>>> MODULE_DESCRIPTION("x");
>>> ```
>>>
>>> Result from dmesg:
>>> [Mon Aug 25 15:44:50 2025] io_lock address offset mod 4: 1
>>>
>>
>> Thanks for sending code to illustrate your point. Unfortunately, I was
>> not
>> able to reproduce your results. Tested on x86, your test module shows no
>> misalignment:
>>
>> [131840.349042] io_lock address offset mod 4: 0
>>
>> Tested on m68k I also get 0, given the patch at the top of this thread:
>>
>> [ 0.400000] io_lock address offset mod 4: 0
>>
>>>
>>> As we can see, a packed struct can still force the entire mutex object
>>> to an unaligned address. With an address like this, the WARN_ON_ONCE can
>>> still be triggered.
>
>>
>> I don't think so. But there is something unexpected going on here -- the
>> output from pahole appears to say io_lock is at offset 49, which seems to
>> contradict the printk() output above.
>
> Interesting! That contradiction is the key. It seems we're seeing different
> compiler behaviors.
>
> I'm on GCC 14.2.0 (Debian 14.2.0-19), and it appears to be strictly
> respecting
> the packed attribute.
>
> So let's print something more:
>
> ```
> #include <linux/module.h>
> #include <linux/init.h>
>
> struct __attribute__((packed)) test_container {
> char padding[49];
> struct mutex io_lock;
> };
>
> static int __init alignment_init(void)
> {
> struct test_container cont;
> pr_info("Container base address : %px\n", &cont);
> pr_info("io_lock member address : %px\n", &cont.io_lock);
> pr_info("io_lock address offset mod 4: %lu\n", (unsigned
> long)&cont.io_lock % 4);
> return 0;
> }
>
> static void __exit alignment_exit(void)
> {
> pr_info("Module unloaded\n");
> }
>
> module_init(alignment_init);
> module_exit(alignment_exit);
> MODULE_LICENSE("GPL");
> MODULE_AUTHOR("x");
> MODULE_DESCRIPTION("x");
> ```
>
> Result from dmesg:
>
> ```
> [Mon Aug 25 19:15:33 2025] Container base address : ff1100063570f840
> [Mon Aug 25 19:15:33 2025] io_lock member address : ff1100063570f871
> [Mon Aug 25 19:15:33 2025] io_lock address offset mod 4: 1
> ```
>
> io_lock is exactly base + 49, resulting in misalignment.
>
> Seems like your compiler is cleverly re-aligning the whole struct on the
> stack, but we can't rely on that behavior, as it's not guaranteed across
> all compilers or versions. wdyt?
Same here, using a global static variable instead of a local one. The result
is consistently misaligned.
```
#include <linux/module.h>
#include <linux/init.h>
static struct __attribute__((packed)) test_container {
char padding[49];
struct mutex io_lock;
} cont;
static int __init alignment_init(void)
{
pr_info("Container base address : %px\n", &cont);
pr_info("io_lock member address : %px\n", &cont.io_lock);
pr_info("io_lock address offset mod 4: %lu\n", (unsigned
long)&cont.io_lock % 4);
return 0;
}
static void __exit alignment_exit(void)
{
pr_info("Module unloaded\n");
}
module_init(alignment_init);
module_exit(alignment_exit);
MODULE_LICENSE("GPL");
MODULE_AUTHOR("x");
MODULE_DESCRIPTION("x");
```
Result from dmesg:
```
[Mon Aug 25 19:33:28 2025] Container base address : ffffffffc28f0940
[Mon Aug 25 19:33:28 2025] io_lock member address : ffffffffc28f0971
[Mon Aug 25 19:33:28 2025] io_lock address offset mod 4: 1
```
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-08-25 11:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-25 2:03 [PATCH] atomic: Specify natural alignment for atomic_t Finn Thain
2025-08-25 3:27 ` Lance Yang
2025-08-25 3:59 ` Finn Thain
2025-08-25 4:22 ` Lance Yang
2025-08-25 4:07 ` Finn Thain
2025-08-25 5:00 ` Lance Yang
2025-08-25 6:17 ` Finn Thain
2025-08-25 7:46 ` Lance Yang
2025-08-25 10:49 ` Finn Thain
2025-08-25 11:19 ` Lance Yang
2025-08-25 11:36 ` Lance Yang [this message]
2025-08-27 23:43 ` Finn Thain
2025-08-28 2:05 ` Lance Yang
2025-09-01 8:45 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-09-02 13:30 ` Lance Yang
2025-09-02 14:14 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-08-25 12:07 ` David Laight
2025-08-25 12:33 ` Lance Yang
2025-08-27 8:00 ` Finn Thain
2025-08-27 9:34 ` Lance Yang
2025-09-01 8:48 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-08-25 7:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-08-25 8:03 ` Finn Thain
2025-08-25 11:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-08-27 7:17 ` Finn Thain
2025-08-27 11:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-08-28 9:53 ` Finn Thain
2025-09-01 9:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-09-01 9:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-08-26 15:22 ` Eero Tamminen
2025-08-26 17:33 ` Lance Yang
2025-09-01 8:51 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-09-01 15:12 ` Eero Tamminen
2025-08-27 2:45 ` Masami Hiramatsu
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