From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Google-Smtp-Source: AH8x2269BFEWwZUZdMfypIArMh8D/wtUomAgk8EHjrO+A9O0/HvRxrFBCFF5R7ByO7rKUBuI8jON ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1517258659; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=HP03cigfFdx/RX2rU/mXEgdLrXxFWWvc9t2s+0OejcM0HuqbyI+tAyNOjJQC8Im+c7 zuRugyCycfbcSpjUglzqUpm4Ef2p3UeUpreLEMf+aMi8gS2bEKDA3AU4CPvZo/6yuvIm rme008fkG3A9r1Yu65eO9lgUikdzcxDBiezQ+7eXKaGkJubDkZJYQBkXnbrCzHsXe6Zl H3tnHGtHyVvllnF7iZETIfL2ZZetqIJfwzrSZpW0P6BHCnCVxgs7vndnDa4m/xzNR/KQ lZsjWlCobuqORAVFaG4mZzRZM9w5QpQkxOf5q37RnnQCgnix4TAns4htOt4VHbTz3al7 IgSg== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-language:in-reply-to:mime-version :user-agent:date:message-id:from:references:cc:to:subject :arc-authentication-results; bh=g012n4IFkEd3GnhE3P5jiwaDu2FZOIlCIin7bUN5hwA=; b=dYhT5rPmW8aX3uyLRntmYLNHc0vhTtJsuL/j6aKLgpzdG6rmVuMFqhxZdBRjkwcpiH CbsYu8dFG/aQpRp84bwuOlrihhD7xsdNxH+S4z/uGiGJ5PZHIeT5QypBu9wVPRG3tcRf tT1lGXez+5yG8VkiXwwVp7WOBwyt8OmBvAs0p7X0UehsrxZL1xzfrq4TBK6aBUjIougU 7O1x8kMiJrkj9iLvN5ma13hoUFch2vjZUjAxMcKvTS8v1izWUGjn3cHYPgo4dkAmtc2q vfuzX5yf0wYvG2vLYFgdyCzG+W2F84xdzqc/ypBYYbXJ6IcSVpzennhiUUDt+qwVuXMQ A/ng== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of arjan@linux.intel.com designates 192.55.52.115 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=arjan@linux.intel.com Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of arjan@linux.intel.com designates 192.55.52.115 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=arjan@linux.intel.com X-Amp-Result: SKIPPED(no attachment in message) X-Amp-File-Uploaded: False X-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.46,432,1511856000"; d="scan'208";a="199595591" Subject: Re: [RFC,05/10] x86/speculation: Add basic IBRS support infrastructure To: Eduardo Habkost , David Woodhouse Cc: KarimAllah Ahmed , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andi Kleen , Andrea Arcangeli , Andy Lutomirski , Ashok Raj , Asit Mallick , Borislav Petkov , Dan Williams , Dave Hansen , Greg Kroah-Hartman , "H . Peter Anvin" , Ingo Molnar , Janakarajan Natarajan , Joerg Roedel , Jun Nakajima , Laura Abbott , Linus Torvalds , Masami Hiramatsu , Paolo Bonzini , Peter Zijlstra , =?UTF-8?B?UmFkaW0gS3LEjW3DocWZ?= , Thomas Gleixner , Tim Chen , Tom Lendacky , kvm@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org, "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" References: <1516476182-5153-6-git-send-email-karahmed@amazon.de> <20180129201404.GA1588@localhost.localdomain> <1517257022.18619.30.camel@infradead.org> <20180129204256.GV25150@localhost.localdomain> From: Arjan van de Ven Message-ID: <31415b7f-9c76-c102-86cd-6bf4e23e3aee@linux.intel.com> Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 12:44:16 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.5.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20180129204256.GV25150@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-getmail-retrieved-from-mailbox: INBOX X-GMAIL-THRID: =?utf-8?q?1590140581449802182?= X-GMAIL-MSGID: =?utf-8?q?1590961015853224929?= X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On 1/29/2018 12:42 PM, Eduardo Habkost wrote: > The question is how the hypervisor could tell that to the guest. > If Intel doesn't give us a CPUID bit that can be used to tell > that retpolines are enough, maybe we should use a hypervisor > CPUID bit for that? the objective is to have retpoline be safe everywhere and never use IBRS (Linus was also pretty clear about that) so I'm confused by your question