public inbox for linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Pierre-Louis Bossart <pierre-louis.bossart@linux.intel.com>
To: Vinod Koul <vkoul@kernel.org>
Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, tiwai@suse.de,
	gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Ranjani Sridharan <ranjani.sridharan@linux.intel.com>,
	broonie@kernel.org, srinivas.kandagatla@linaro.org,
	jank@cadence.com, slawomir.blauciak@intel.com,
	Sanyog Kale <sanyog.r.kale@intel.com>,
	Bard liao <yung-chuan.liao@linux.intel.com>,
	Rander Wang <rander.wang@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [alsa-devel] [PATCH v5 09/17] soundwire: intel: remove platform devices and use 'Master Devices' instead
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2020 08:51:59 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <32ae46a7-59ee-4815-270a-a519ff462345@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200106054221.GN2818@vkoul-mobl>


>>>> +		/* let the SoundWire master driver to its probe */
>>>> +		md->driver->probe(md, link);
>>>
>>> So you are invoking driver probe here.. That is typically role of driver
>>> core to do that.. If we need that, make driver core do that for you!
>>>
>>> That reminds me I am missing match code for master driver...
>>
>> There is no match for the master because it doesn't have an existence in
>> ACPI. There are no _ADR or HID that can be used, the only thing that exists
>> is the Controller which has 4 sublinks. Each master must be added  by hand.
>>
>> Also the SoundWire master cannot be enumerated or matched against a
>> SoundWire bus, since it controls the bus itself (that would be a chicken and
>> egg problem). The SoundWire master would need to be matched on a parent bus
>> (which does not exist for Intel) since the hardware is embedded in a larger
>> audio cluster that's visible on PCI only.
>>
>> Currently for Intel platforms, the SoundWire master device is created by the
>> SOF driver (via the abstraction in intel_init.c).
> 
> That is okay for me, the thing that is bit confusing is having a probe
> etc and no match.. (more below)..
> 
>>> So we seem to be somewhere is middle wrt driver probing here! IIUC this
>>> is not a full master driver, thats okay, but then it is not
>>> completely transparent either...
>>>
>>> I was somehow thinking that the driver will continue to be
>>> 'platform/acpi/of' driver and master device abstraction will be
>>> handled in the core (for example see how the busses like i2c handle
>>> this). The master device is created and used to represent but driver
>>> probing etc is not done
>>
>> I2C controllers are typically PCI devices or have some sort of ACPI
>> description. This is not the case for SoundWire masters on Intel platforms,
> 
> Well the world is not PCI/ACPI... We have controllers which are DT
> described and work in same manner as a PCI device.
Both DT and PCI would use a DIFFERENT matching on the parent bus, not a 
matching provided by the SoundWire subsystem itself.

> 
>> so even if I wanted to I would have no ability to implement any matching or
>> parent bus registration.
>>
>> Also the notion of 'probe' does not necessarily mean that the device is
>> attached to a bus, we use DAI 'drivers' in ASoC and still have probe/remove
>> callbacks.
> 
> The "big" difference is that probe is called by core (asoc) and not by
> driver onto themselves.. IMO that needs to go away.

What I did is not different from what existed already with platform 
devices. They were manually created, weren't they?

> 
>> And if you look at the definitions, we added additional callbacks since
>> probe/remove are not enough to deal with hardware restrictions:
>>
>> For Intel platforms, we have a startup() callback which is only invoked once
>> the DSP is powered and the rails stable. Likewise we added an
>> 'autonomous_clock_stop()' callback which will be needed when the Linux
>> driver hands-over control of the hardware to the DSP firmware, e.g. to deal
>> with in-band wakes in D0i3.
>>
>> FWIW, the implementation here follows what was suggested for Greybus 'Host
>> Devices' [1] [2], so it's not like I am creating any sort of dangerous
>> precedent.
>>
>> [1]
>> https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/drivers/greybus/es2.c#L1275
>> [2] https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/drivers/greybus/hd.c#L124
> 
> And if you look closely all this work is done by core not by drivers!
> Drivers _should_ never do all this, it is the job of core to do that for
> you.

Please look at the code again, you have a USB probe that will manually 
call the GreyBus device creation.

static int ap_probe(struct usb_interface *interface,
		    const struct usb_device_id *id)
{
	hd = gb_hd_create(&es2_driver, &udev->dev, 	


static struct usb_driver es2_ap_driver = {
	.name =		"es2_ap_driver",
	.probe =	ap_probe, <<< code above
	.disconnect =	ap_disconnect,
	.id_table =	id_table,
	.soft_unbind =	1,
};

The master device probe suggested here is also called as part of the 
parent SOF PCI device probe, same as this USB example. I really don't 
see what your objection is, given that there is no way to deal with the 
SoundWire controller as a independent entity for Intel platforms.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-01-06 16:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-12-17 21:02 [PATCH v5 00/17] soundwire: intel: implement new ASoC interfaces Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-12-17 21:02 ` [PATCH v5 01/17] soundwire: renames to prepare support for master drivers/devices Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-12-17 21:02 ` [PATCH v5 02/17] soundwire: rename dev_to_sdw_dev macro Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-12-27  6:54   ` Vinod Koul
2019-12-17 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 03/17] soundwire: rename drv_to_sdw_slave_driver macro Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-12-27  7:00   ` Vinod Koul
2019-12-27 23:23     ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-12-28 12:03       ` Vinod Koul
2019-12-17 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 04/17] soundwire: bus_type: rename sdw_drv_ to sdw_slave_drv Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-12-17 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 05/17] soundwire: intel: rename res field as link_res Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-12-17 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 06/17] soundwire: add support for sdw_slave_type Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-12-27  7:03   ` Vinod Koul
2019-12-27 23:26     ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-12-28 12:05       ` Vinod Koul
2019-12-17 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 07/17] soundwire: slave: move uevent handling to slave device level Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-12-17 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 08/17] soundwire: add initial definitions for sdw_master_device Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-12-27  7:14   ` Vinod Koul
2019-12-27 23:38     ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-12-28 12:09       ` Vinod Koul
2020-01-02 17:36         ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2020-01-06  5:32           ` Vinod Koul
2019-12-17 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 09/17] soundwire: intel: remove platform devices and use 'Master Devices' instead Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-12-27  9:08   ` Vinod Koul
2019-12-28  0:13     ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2020-01-06  5:42       ` Vinod Koul
2020-01-06 14:51         ` Pierre-Louis Bossart [this message]
2020-01-10  6:43           ` Vinod Koul
2020-01-10 16:08             ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2020-01-13  5:18               ` Vinod Koul
2020-01-13 15:22                 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2020-01-14  6:09   ` Vinod Koul
2020-01-14 16:01     ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2020-01-18  7:12       ` Vinod Koul
2020-01-21 17:31         ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2020-01-28 10:50           ` Vinod Koul
2020-01-28 16:02             ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2020-01-29  5:08               ` Vinod Koul
2020-01-29 14:59                 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2020-02-03 12:02                   ` Vinod Koul
2019-12-17 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 10/17] soundwire: register master device driver Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-12-17 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 11/17] soundwire: intel: add prepare support in sdw dai driver Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-12-17 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 12/17] soundwire: intel: add trigger " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-12-17 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 13/17] soundwire: intel: add sdw_stream_setup helper for .startup callback Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-12-17 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 14/17] soundwire: intel: free all resources on hw_free() Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-12-17 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 15/17] soundwire: intel_init: add implementation of sdw_intel_enable_irq() Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-12-17 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 16/17] soundwire: intel_init: use EXPORT_SYMBOL_NS Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-12-17 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 17/17] soundwire: intel: " Pierre-Louis Bossart

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=32ae46a7-59ee-4815-270a-a519ff462345@linux.intel.com \
    --to=pierre-louis.bossart@linux.intel.com \
    --cc=alsa-devel@alsa-project.org \
    --cc=broonie@kernel.org \
    --cc=gregkh@linuxfoundation.org \
    --cc=jank@cadence.com \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=rander.wang@linux.intel.com \
    --cc=ranjani.sridharan@linux.intel.com \
    --cc=sanyog.r.kale@intel.com \
    --cc=slawomir.blauciak@intel.com \
    --cc=srinivas.kandagatla@linaro.org \
    --cc=tiwai@suse.de \
    --cc=vkoul@kernel.org \
    --cc=yung-chuan.liao@linux.intel.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox