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From: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
To: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>, James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>
Cc: dhowells@redhat.com, Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org>,
	petkan@mip-labs.com, linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	keyrings@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] X.509: Partially revert patch to add validation against IMA MOK keyring
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 20:33:38 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3384.1452458018@warthog.procyon.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2033.1452447990@warthog.procyon.org.uk>

David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com> wrote:

> Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> 
> > > Is this a NAK on the patch?
> > 
> > Yes
> 
> I would like to counter Mimi's NAK:
> 
>  (1) Commit 41c89b64d7184a780f12f2cccdabe65cb2408893 doesn't do what it
>      says.  Given the change I want to revert, this bit of the description:
> 
> 	To successfully import a key into .ima_mok it must be signed by a
> 	key which CA is in .system keyring.
> 
>      is *not* true.  A key in the .ima_mok keyring will *also* allow a key
>      into the .ima_mok keyring.  Thus the .ima_mok keyring is redundant and
>      should be merged into the .system keyring.
> 
>  (2) You can use KEYCTL_LINK to link trusted keys between trusted keyrings
>      if the key being linked grants permission.  Add a new key to one open
>      keyring and you can then link it across to another.
> 
>      Keyrings need to guard against *link* as per my recently posted
>      patches.
> 
>  (3) In the current model, the trusted-only keyring and trusted-key concept
>      ought really to apply only to the .system keyring as the concept of
>      'trust' is boolean in this implementation.
> 
>      Again, I want to change this as per my recently posted patches.

 (4) Marcel asked to have user-based 'trusted' keyrings - where userspace
     can load a keyring up and then mark it as 'trusted' thereby limiting
     further additions - for the use with kernel-based TLS.

     These would *not* depend on the .system keyring.  Unless we're willing
     to store the root CA certificate for the world in the kernel, we can't
     really do that.

David

  reply	other threads:[~2016-01-10 20:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-06 13:45 [PATCH] X.509: Partially revert patch to add validation against IMA MOK keyring David Howells
2016-01-07  0:04 ` James Morris
2016-01-07  0:34 ` David Howells
2016-01-07  2:13   ` Mimi Zohar
2016-01-07  3:28     ` Mimi Zohar
2016-01-07 15:31   ` Mimi Zohar
2016-01-10 10:36     ` James Morris
2016-01-10 13:26       ` Mimi Zohar
2016-01-10 17:46         ` David Howells
2016-01-10 20:33           ` David Howells [this message]
2016-01-10 23:55             ` Mimi Zohar
2016-01-12  0:44               ` David Howells
2016-01-12  1:28                 ` Mark D. Baushke
2016-01-12  2:03                   ` David Howells
2016-01-12  2:25                     ` Mark D. Baushke
2016-01-12  3:35                     ` Mimi Zohar
2016-01-12 10:08                       ` David Howells
2016-01-12 13:21                         ` Mimi Zohar
2016-01-12 13:55                           ` David Howells
2016-01-12 15:17                             ` Mimi Zohar
2016-01-12 15:56                               ` David Howells
2016-01-12 16:02                                 ` Mimi Zohar
2016-01-12 14:11                         ` Petko Manolov
2016-01-10 20:33           ` Petko Manolov
2016-01-12  1:38             ` David Howells
2016-01-12 16:14               ` Petko Manolov
2016-01-12 17:08                 ` David Howells
2016-01-13 16:31                   ` Petko Manolov
2016-01-13 17:51                     ` Mimi Zohar
2016-01-13 18:01                       ` Petko Manolov
2016-01-13 18:19                       ` David Howells
2016-01-13 18:35                         ` Petko Manolov
2016-01-13 18:56                           ` Mimi Zohar
2016-01-13 19:19                             ` Petko Manolov

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