From: Wu Fengguang <wfg@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>,
Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
Badari Pulavarty <pbadari@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] kernel facilities for cache prefetching
Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 16:53:25 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <346559990.12674@ustc.edu.cn> (raw)
Message-ID: <20060502085325.GA9190@mail.ustc.edu.cn> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1146558617.32045.23.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org>
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 10:30:17AM +0200, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> one interesting thing that came out of the fedora readahead work is that
> most of the bootup isn't actually IO bound. My test machine for example
> can load all the data into ram in about 10 seconds, so that the rest of
> the boot is basically IO-less. But that still takes 2 minutes....
> So I'm not entirely sure how much you can win by just attacking this.
Yes, I find it hard to improve the boot time of the init.d stage.
However, it is perfectly ok to preload all GUI staffs during that
timespan, by overlapping CPU/IO activities.
> Another interesting approach would be to actually put all the data you
> want to use in a non-fragmented, sequential area on disk somehow (there
> is an OLS paper submitted about that by Ben) so that at least the disk
> side is seekless...
You are right, reducing seeking distances helps not much. My fluxbox
desktop requires near 3k seeks, which can be loaded in the 20s init.d
booting time. But for KDE/GNOME desktops, some defragging would be
necessary to fit them into the 20s time span.
I found ext3 to be rather good filesystem to support poor man's defrag
described by Chris Mason:
http://www.gelato.unsw.edu.au/archives/git/0504/1690.html
This certainly can help. Based on some ideas from andrea I
made a poor man's defrag script last year that was similar.
It worked by copying files into a flat dir in the order you
expected to read them in, deleting the original, then hard
linking them into their original name.
Make the 'flat dir' as an top level dir would do the trick for ext3.
We have good chance to merge 10k seeks into 3k seeks by this trick :)
Wu
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Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20060502075049.GA5000@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-05-02 7:50 ` [RFC] kernel facilities for cache prefetching Wu Fengguang
2006-05-02 12:46 ` Diego Calleja
[not found] ` <20060502144203.GA10594@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-05-02 14:42 ` Wu Fengguang
2006-05-02 16:07 ` Diego Calleja
[not found] ` <20060503064503.GA4781@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-05-03 6:45 ` Wu Fengguang
2006-05-03 18:14 ` Diego Calleja
2006-05-03 23:39 ` Zan Lynx
2006-05-04 1:37 ` Diego Calleja
2006-05-02 15:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-05-02 16:35 ` Andi Kleen
[not found] ` <20060503071325.GC4781@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-05-03 7:13 ` Wu Fengguang
2006-05-03 12:59 ` Nikita Danilov
[not found] ` <20060503041106.GC5915@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-05-03 4:11 ` Wu Fengguang
2006-05-03 17:28 ` Badari Pulavarty
[not found] ` <346733486.30800@ustc.edu.cn>
2006-05-04 15:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-05-04 16:57 ` Badari Pulavarty
[not found] ` <20060505144451.GA6134@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-05-05 14:44 ` Wu Fengguang
2006-05-03 22:20 ` Rik van Riel
[not found] ` <20060506011125.GA9099@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-05-06 1:11 ` Wu Fengguang
2006-05-04 0:28 ` Linda Walsh
2006-05-04 1:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-05-04 7:08 ` Ph. Marek
2006-05-04 7:33 ` Arjan van de Ven
[not found] ` <20060504121454.GB6008@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-05-04 12:14 ` Wu Fengguang
2006-05-04 12:34 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-03 21:45 ` Linda Walsh
[not found] ` <20060504121212.GA6008@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-05-04 12:12 ` Wu Fengguang
2006-05-04 18:57 ` Linda Walsh
[not found] ` <20060505152007.GB6134@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-05-05 15:20 ` Wu Fengguang
2006-05-04 9:02 ` Helge Hafting
2006-05-02 7:58 ` Arjan van de Ven
[not found] ` <20060502080619.GA5406@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-05-02 8:06 ` Wu Fengguang
2006-05-02 8:30 ` Arjan van de Ven
[not found] ` <20060502085325.GA9190@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-05-02 8:53 ` Wu Fengguang [this message]
2006-05-06 6:49 ` Denis Vlasenko
2006-05-02 8:55 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-02 11:39 ` Jan Engelhardt
[not found] ` <20060502114853.GA9983@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-05-02 11:48 ` Wu Fengguang
2006-05-02 22:03 ` Dave Jones
2006-05-02 8:09 ` Jens Axboe
[not found] ` <20060502082009.GA9038@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-05-02 8:20 ` Wu Fengguang
2006-05-03 22:05 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-05-02 19:10 ` Pavel Machek
2006-05-02 23:36 ` Nigel Cunningham
[not found] ` <20060503023505.GB5915@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-05-03 2:35 ` Wu Fengguang
[not found] ` <20060503023223.GA5915@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-05-03 2:32 ` Wu Fengguang
[not found] ` <20060503071948.GD4781@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-05-03 7:19 ` Wu Fengguang
[not found] ` <20060504122830.GA6205@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-05-04 12:28 ` Wu Fengguang
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