From: Wu Fengguang <wfg@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
To: Michael Tokarev <mjt@tls.msk.ru>
Cc: Ingo Oeser <ioe-lkml@rameria.de>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/5] readahead: backoff on I/O error
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 09:12:45 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <350074764.23563@ustc.edu.cn> (raw)
Message-ID: <20060612011245.GA5214@mail.ustc.edu.cn> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <448B221D.3080907@tls.msk.ru>
Hi Ingo and Michael,
On Sat, Jun 10, 2006 at 11:48:45PM +0400, Michael Tokarev wrote:
> Ingo Oeser wrote:
> >> Backoff readahead size exponentially on I/O error.
> >
> >> With this patch, retries are expected to be reduced from, say, 256, to 5.
> >
> > 1. Would you mind to push this patch to -stable?
> >
> > Reason: If killing a drive was hit in the field, this should be critical
> > enough.
>
Andrew:
I was a bit afraid about that because I have no CDROM to try it out.
But since Michael has tested it OK, it should be OK for the stable kernel.
> > 2. Could you disable (at least optionally) read ahead complety
> > on the first IO error?
> >
> > Reason: In a data recovery situation (hitting EIO quite often,
> > but not really sequentially) readahead is counter productive.
> > E.g. trying to save an old CD with the cdparanoia software.
Should be ok. I have no experience on it. So Michael and users with
the taste have the last word :)
It might also be helpful to generate some uevent for it. User land
tools can then run blockdev --setra in a configurable way.
> I'm thinking about all this again.. well. Read-ahead is definitely
> very useful on a CD (I'm referring to all optical media here, be it
> DVD, or BlueRay, or whatever; floppies too, but there it's less useful
> due to speed of the whole thing) - I mean, say, DVDs are played more
> smoothly if readahead is enabled; a "live CD" distro will be more
> responsive if readahead is enabled, and so on - the effect of RA is
> trivially visible.
>
> But still, for a scratched CD, it might be a good idea to turn RA off
> while playing it, completely - by means of, eg, blockdev --setra 0,
> or something like that. Yes not many (end)users know this tool, yes
> it's privileged (oh well), but it helps.
>
> Why I recall --setra is: when kernel will start reducing RA by its
> own, next question will be "why my CD is too slow?" -- after playing
> a scratched CD, you insert another one, and RA is *still* zero...
>
> So I'm not really sure how simple the solution should be.
The patch operates on a per-fd basis. Thus the readahead size will not
be affected for other files and CDs. The readahead size also restores
on reopening the file :)
Thanks,
Wu
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-06-12 1:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20060609080801.741901069@localhost.localdomain>
2006-06-09 8:08 ` [PATCH 0/5] Adaptive readahead updates 2 Wu Fengguang
[not found] ` <20060609081119.231751179@localhost.localdomain>
2006-06-09 8:08 ` [PATCH 1/5] readahead: no RA_FLAG_EOF on single page file Wu Fengguang
[not found] ` <20060609081120.054527393@localhost.localdomain>
2006-06-09 8:08 ` [PATCH 3/5] readahead: call scheme - no fastcall for readahead_cache_hit() Wu Fengguang
[not found] ` <20060609081120.531013274@localhost.localdomain>
2006-06-09 8:08 ` [PATCH 4/5] readahead: backoff on I/O error Wu Fengguang
2006-06-10 18:33 ` Ingo Oeser
2006-06-10 19:48 ` Michael Tokarev
[not found] ` <20060612011245.GA5214@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-06-12 1:12 ` Wu Fengguang [this message]
2006-06-12 3:43 ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-12 11:06 ` Michael Tokarev
2006-06-17 6:38 ` Michael Tokarev
2006-06-17 7:00 ` Michael Tokarev
[not found] ` <20060609081121.002572642@localhost.localdomain>
2006-06-09 8:08 ` [PATCH 5/5] readahead: remove size limit on read_ahead_kb Wu Fengguang
2006-06-11 5:34 [PATCH 4/5] readahead: backoff on I/O error Just Marc
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