From: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, devel@laptop.org,
jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de, benh@kernel.crashing.org,
wmb@firmworks.com, jg@laptop.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Open Firmware device tree virtual filesystem
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 16:31:45 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <361567791f8bd777c73f0f94174b73dc@kernel.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070102.203828.70220767.davem@davemloft.net>
>> Kill OF? sparc does not want that IMO, how else should I return to
>> the 'ok' prompt?
>
> PowerPC kills OF because it really has to,
No it doesn't. It has to on some (very common, heh) subarchs.
> that's one of numerous
> reasons that it started sucking the device tree into a kernel copy
> early in the bootup and using that for device discovery etc.
>
> To be honest, the 'ok' prompt is of limited value when you have
> things like Alt-SysRq and PPC's XMON debugger in the kernel already.
When I ported the PowerPC kernel to a new platform years ago,
the big problems happened *before* any of those methods worked,
at really early boot time (the PowerPC port has become a lot
better since then fwiw, it might be easier now). Running (and
debugging) other client programs was a lot easier, since you
could always drop back to OF on panic conditions so you could
investigate what was going on without using hardware probes.
> In fact, the 'ok' prompt is an ENORMOUS pain in the ass to support
> on machines with USB keyboards, because sharing the USB host
> controller is beyond non-trivial. I've never implemented support
> for that on sparc64 and I frankly have no desire to do the work
> necessary to support that. It simply is not worth it.
Oh yes, USB keyboards, lovely. Use a serial port, or a dedicated
network controller, or similar, for the OF console instead ;-)
Segher
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-01-03 15:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-12-31 1:38 [PATCH] Open Firmware device tree virtual filesystem Mitch Bradley
2006-12-31 5:19 ` David Miller
2006-12-31 9:36 ` Mitch Bradley
2006-12-31 9:52 ` David Miller
2006-12-31 10:11 ` David Kahn
2006-12-31 10:49 ` David Miller
2006-12-31 11:47 ` Rene Rebe
2006-12-31 11:53 ` David Kahn
2007-01-01 3:48 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-02 3:56 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-02 18:43 ` Richard Smith
2006-12-31 15:41 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-12-31 20:46 ` David Miller
2007-01-01 3:37 ` David Kahn
2007-01-01 8:54 ` David Miller
2007-01-02 4:02 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-02 12:28 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-01 3:33 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-01 8:57 ` David Miller
2007-01-01 17:48 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-01 23:08 ` David Miller
2007-01-01 23:52 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-02 3:31 ` David Miller
2007-01-02 11:26 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-02 1:40 ` David Kahn
2007-01-02 3:36 ` David Miller
2007-01-01 18:10 ` Mitch Bradley
2007-01-01 19:21 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-02 4:05 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-02 4:30 ` David Miller
2007-01-02 4:57 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-02 5:01 ` David Miller
2007-01-02 5:09 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-02 5:44 ` David Miller
2007-01-02 12:36 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-02 11:03 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-02 3:53 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-02 12:22 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-02 20:12 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-02 21:28 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-02 21:32 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-02 21:40 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-02 22:10 ` David Miller
2007-01-02 22:05 ` David Miller
2007-01-03 0:48 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-03 4:34 ` David Miller
2007-01-03 15:23 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-04 2:15 ` David Miller
2007-01-02 3:45 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-02 3:49 ` David Miller
2007-01-02 11:45 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-02 20:07 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-12-31 13:24 ` Pekka Enberg
2006-12-31 18:55 ` Mitch Bradley
2006-12-31 14:12 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-12-31 20:45 ` David Miller
2006-12-31 21:30 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-02 3:43 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-02 11:37 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-02 13:22 ` Stefan Reinauer
2007-01-02 20:08 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-02 20:11 ` Mitch Bradley
2007-01-02 20:48 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-02 21:37 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-02 21:47 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-03 0:35 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-03 0:44 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-03 1:14 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-03 4:35 ` David Miller
2007-01-02 22:07 ` David Miller
2007-01-03 0:52 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-03 1:13 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-03 4:38 ` David Miller
2007-01-03 5:05 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-03 15:59 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-03 15:31 ` Segher Boessenkool [this message]
2007-01-03 4:34 ` David Miller
2007-01-02 21:15 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-02 21:59 ` David Miller
2007-01-01 3:40 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-01 4:21 ` Segher Boessenkool
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-01-11 17:39 ron minnich
2007-01-11 17:53 ` Mitch Bradley
2007-01-11 17:55 ` ron minnich
2007-01-11 18:36 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-11 18:20 ` Stefan Reinauer
2007-01-11 18:47 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-11 19:12 ` ron minnich
2007-01-11 19:11 ` ron minnich
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