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From: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
To: Shuai Xue <xueshuai@linux.alibaba.com>,
	"Deucher, Alexander" <Alexander.Deucher@amd.com>,
	"Pan, Xinhui" <Xinhui.Pan@amd.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] drm/amdgpu: Enable runtime modification of gpu_recovery parameter with validation
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2025 13:36:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <37743a9d-8a07-4df4-be7d-b06e1e20dafd@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z3vIBq1eTxJcDOyc@phenom.ffwll.local>

Am 06.01.25 um 13:09 schrieb Simona Vetter:
> On Fri, Jan 03, 2025 at 08:21:43AM +0000, Koenig, Christian wrote:
>> [AMD Official Use Only - AMD Internal Distribution Only]
>>
>> Hi Shuai,
>>
>> setting gpu_recovery=0 is not even remotely related to RAS. If that
>> option affects RAS behavior in any way then that is a bug.
>>
>> The purpose of setting gpu_recovery=0 is to disable resets after a
>> submission timeout most likely caused by an unrecoverable HW error.
>>
>> This is necessary for JTAG debugging in our labs during HW bringup and
>> should *NEVER* be used on any production system.
>>
>> We already discussed with upstream maintainers that we should probably
>> mark the kernel as tainted to indicate that it might be in an unreliable
>> HW state. I will push for this now since there seems to be a big
>> misunderstanding what this option does.
> module_param_unsafe and friends really should be the default for module
> options really, since generally they're just for debugging and other
> hacks. With multiple gpus you can't control options per-device with module
> options in a reasonable way, so that's all no-go. So might want to go
> large-scale relabelling module options while you're at it.

Oh, thanks a lot for this pointer. I wasn't aware of the unsafe module 
option variants.

Going to prepare a patch to make sure that debugging options are not 
used in a production environment.

Thanks,
Christian.

> -Sima
>
>> Regards,
>> Christian.
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> Von: Shuai Xue <xueshuai@linux.alibaba.com>
>> Gesendet: Montag, 30. Dezember 2024 09:50
>> An: Koenig, Christian; Deucher, Alexander; Pan, Xinhui; airlied@gmail.com; simona@ffwll.ch; Lazar, Lijo; Ma, Le; hamza.mahfooz@amd.com; tzimmermann@suse.de; Liu, Shaoyun; Jun.Ma2@amd.com
>> Cc: amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org; dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; tianruidong@linux.alibaba.com
>> Betreff: Re: [PATCH] drm/amdgpu: Enable runtime modification of gpu_recovery parameter with validation
>>
>>
>>
>> 在 2024/12/30 04:11, Christian König 写道:
>>> Am 28.12.24 um 07:32 schrieb Shuai Xue:
>>>> It's observed that most GPU jobs utilize less than one server, typically
>>>> with each GPU being used by an independent job. If a job consumed poisoned
>>>> data, a SIGBUS signal will be sent to terminate it. Meanwhile, the
>>>> gpu_recovery parameter is set to -1 by default, the amdgpu driver resets
>>>> all GPUs on the server. As a result, all jobs are terminated. Setting
>>>> gpu_recovery to 0 provides an opportunity to preemptively evacuate other
>>>> jobs and subsequently manually reset all GPUs.
>>> *BIG* NAK to this whole approach!
>>>
>>> Setting gpu_recovery to 0 in a production environment is *NOT* supported at all and should never be done.
>>>
>>> This is a pure debugging feature for JTAG debugging and can result in random crashes and/or compromised data.
>>>
>>> Please don't tell me that you tried to use this in a production environment.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Christian.
>> Hi, Christian,
>>
>> Thank you for your quick reply.
>>
>> When an application encounters uncorrected error, it will be terminate by a
>> SIGBUS signal. The related bad pages are retired. I did not figure why
>> gpu_recovery=0 can result in random crashes and/or compromised data.
>>
>> I test with error injection in my dev enviroment:
>>
>> 1. load driver with gpu_recovery=0
>> #cat /sys/bus/pci/drivers/amdgpu/module/parameters/gpu_recovery
>> 0
>>
>> 2. inject a Uncorrectable ECC error to UMC
>> #sudo amdgpuras -d 0 -b 2 -t 8
>> Poison inject, logical addr:0x7f2b495f9000 physical addr:0x27f5d4b000 vmid:5
>> Bus error
>>
>> 3. GPU 0000:0a:00.0 reports error address with PA
>> #dmesg | grep 27f5
>> [424443.174154] amdgpu 0000:0a:00.0: amdgpu: Error Address(PA):0x27f5d43080 Row:0x1fd7 Col:0x0  Bank:0xa Channel:0x30
>> [424443.174156] amdgpu 0000:0a:00.0: amdgpu: Error Address(PA):0x27f5d4b080 Row:0x1fd7 Col:0x4  Bank:0xa Channel:0x30
>> [424443.174158] amdgpu 0000:0a:00.0: amdgpu: Error Address(PA):0x27f5d53080 Row:0x1fd7 Col:0x8  Bank:0xa Channel:0x30
>> [424443.174160] amdgpu 0000:0a:00.0: amdgpu: Error Address(PA):0x27f5d5b080 Row:0x1fd7 Col:0xc  Bank:0xa Channel:0x30
>> [424443.174162] amdgpu 0000:0a:00.0: amdgpu: Error Address(PA):0x27f5f43080 Row:0x1fd7 Col:0x10 Bank:0xa Channel:0x30
>> [424443.174169] amdgpu 0000:0a:00.0: amdgpu: Error Address(PA):0x27f5f4b080 Row:0x1fd7 Col:0x14 Bank:0xa Channel:0x30
>> [424443.174172] amdgpu 0000:0a:00.0: amdgpu: Error Address(PA):0x27f5f53080 Row:0x1fd7 Col:0x18 Bank:0xa Channel:0x30
>> [424443.174174] amdgpu 0000:0a:00.0: amdgpu: Error Address(PA):0x27f5f5b080 Row:0x1fd7 Col:0x1c Bank:0xa Channel:0x30
>>
>> 4. All the related bad pages are AMDGPU_RAS_RETIRE_PAGE_RESERVED.
>> #cat /sys/devices/pci0000:05/0000:05:01.0/0000:06:00.0/0000:07:00.0/0000:08:00.0/0000:09:00.0/0000:0a:00.0/ras/gpu_vram_bad_pages | grep 27f5
>> 0x027f5d43 : 0x00001000 : R
>> 0x027f5d4b : 0x00001000 : R
>> 0x027f5d53 : 0x00001000 : R
>> 0x027f5d5b : 0x00001000 : R
>> 0x027f5f43 : 0x00001000 : R
>> 0x027f5f4b : 0x00001000 : R
>> 0x027f5f53 : 0x00001000 : R
>> 0x027f5f5b : 0x00001000 : R
>>
>> AFAIK, the reserved bad pages will not be used any more.  Please correct me if
>> I missed anything.
>>
>> DRAM ECC issues are the most common problems. When it occurs, the kernel will
>> attempt to hard-offline the page, by trying to unmap the page or killing any
>> owner, or triggering IO errors if needed.
>>
>> ECC error is also common for HBM and error isolation from each user's job is a
>> basic requirement in public cloud. For NVIDIA GPU, a ECC error could be
>> contained to a process.
>>
>>> XID 94: Contained ECC error
>>> XID 95: UnContained ECC error
>>>
>>> For Xid 94, these errors are contained to one application, and the application
>>> that encountered this error must be restarted. All other applications running
>>> at the time of the Xid are unaffected. It is recommended to reset the GPU when
>>> convenient. Applications can continue to be run until the reset can be
>>> performed.
>>>
>>> For Xid 95, these errors affect multiple applications, and the affected GPU
>>> must be reset before applications can restart.
>>>
>>> https://docs.nvidia.com/deploy/xid-errors/
>> Does AMD GPU provide a similar way to achieve error isolation requirement?
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Shuai
>>
>>>>    However, this parameter is
>>>> read-only, necessitating correct settings at driver load. And reloading the
>>>> GPU driver in a production environment can be challenging due to reference
>>>> counts maintained by various monitoring services.
>>>>
>>>> Set the gpu_recovery parameter with read-write permission to enable runtime
>>>> modification. It will enables users to dynamically manage GPU recovery
>>>> mechanisms based on real-time requirements or conditions.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Shuai Xue <xueshuai@linux.alibaba.com>
>>>> ---
>>>>    drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_drv.c | 26 ++++++++++++++++++++++++-
>>>>    1 file changed, 25 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_drv.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_drv.c
>>>> index 38686203bea6..03dd902e1cec 100644
>>>> --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_drv.c
>>>> +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_drv.c
>>>> @@ -563,12 +563,36 @@ module_param_named(lbpw, amdgpu_lbpw, int, 0444);
>>>>    MODULE_PARM_DESC(compute_multipipe, "Force compute queues to be spread across pipes (1 = enable, 0 = disable, -1 = auto)");
>>>>    module_param_named(compute_multipipe, amdgpu_compute_multipipe, int, 0444);
>>>> +static int amdgpu_set_gpu_recovery(const char *buf,
>>>> +                   const struct kernel_param *kp)
>>>> +{
>>>> +    unsigned long val;
>>>> +    int ret;
>>>> +
>>>> +    ret = kstrtol(buf, 10, &val);
>>>> +    if (ret < 0)
>>>> +        return ret;
>>>> +
>>>> +    if (val != 1 && val != 0 && val != -1) {
>>>> +        pr_err("Invalid value for gpu_recovery: %ld, excepted 0,1,-1\n",
>>>> +               val);
>>>> +        return -EINVAL;
>>>> +    }
>>>> +
>>>> +    return param_set_int(buf, kp);
>>>> +}
>>>> +
>>>> +static const struct kernel_param_ops amdgpu_gpu_recovery_ops = {
>>>> +    .set = amdgpu_set_gpu_recovery,
>>>> +    .get = param_get_int,
>>>> +};
>>>> +
>>>>    /**
>>>>     * DOC: gpu_recovery (int)
>>>>     * Set to enable GPU recovery mechanism (1 = enable, 0 = disable). The default is -1 (auto, disabled except SRIOV).
>>>>     */
>>>>    MODULE_PARM_DESC(gpu_recovery, "Enable GPU recovery mechanism, (1 = enable, 0 = disable, -1 = auto)");
>>>> -module_param_named(gpu_recovery, amdgpu_gpu_recovery, int, 0444);
>>>> +module_param_cb(gpu_recovery, &amdgpu_gpu_recovery_ops, &amdgpu_gpu_recovery, 0644);
>>>>    /**
>>>>     * DOC: emu_mode (int)


  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-07 12:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-28  6:32 [PATCH] drm/amdgpu: Enable runtime modification of gpu_recovery parameter with validation Shuai Xue
2024-12-29 20:11 ` Christian König
2024-12-30  8:50   ` Shuai Xue
2025-01-03  8:21     ` AW: " Koenig, Christian
2025-01-06 12:09       ` Simona Vetter
2025-01-07 12:36         ` Christian König [this message]
2025-01-07  7:06       ` Shuai Xue
2025-01-07 12:34         ` Christian König

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