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From: Pierre-Louis Bossart <pierre-louis.bossart@linux.intel.com>
To: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski@linaro.org>,
	Vinod Koul <vkoul@kernel.org>,
	Bard Liao <yung-chuan.liao@linux.intel.com>,
	Sanyog Kale <sanyog.r.kale@intel.com>,
	Andy Gross <agross@kernel.org>,
	Bjorn Andersson <andersson@kernel.org>,
	Konrad Dybcio <konrad.dybcio@linaro.org>,
	Liam Girdwood <lgirdwood@gmail.com>,
	Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>, Jaroslav Kysela <perex@perex.cz>,
	Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.com>,
	alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Patrick Lai <quic_plai@quicinc.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/6] soudnwire: master: protect concurrecnt check for bus->md
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2023 16:13:11 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <37dfe2e3-6431-b16e-2f19-811e5b0da0fd@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <beaec77b-9a61-6afd-59fa-fa726cae7a54@linaro.org>



On 4/20/23 12:27, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> On 20/04/2023 18:42, Pierre-Louis Bossart wrote:
>> typos in commit title...
>>
>> On 4/20/23 05:16, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>>> The Soundwire master controllers might want to check for bus->md
>>
>> Apologies for being pedantic but 'manager' and 'controller' are
>> different concepts in SoundWire, see DisCo spec.
>> It's not a 1:1 mapping, a controller can rely on M managers
> 
> I wrote master, not manager. For the Qualcomm case one controller is one
> master, but in general I try to avoid the master/slave terminology.

The Soundwire 1.2.1 spec moved away from master/slave and uses
manager/peripheral. It's the same concepts, just different terms. At
some point we'll update the code, it's just been too busy in 2022/2023
to do this replacement. It doesn't hurt to use the new terms.

>>> initialization to avoid race between early interrupt and finish of
>>> sdw_bus_master_add()/sdw_master_device_add().  Such early interrupt can
>>> happen if Soundwire devices are not powered off during their probe.
>>>
>>> Add a store release barrier, so the Soundwire controllers can safely
>>> check it in concurrent (e.g. in interrupt) way.
>>
>> Can you elaborate on the race condition? I am not following what breaks,
>> and what entity generates the 'early interrupt'.
> 
> The condition is explained in next patch. If you think it's better, I
> can squash it with next.
> 
> If the condition is still not clear, drop a note in next patch, so I
> will elaborate there.

will do.

>> I am specifically concerned about adding this in common code without any
>> matching smp_load_acquire() - which is only added in the following patch
>> for the Qualcomm manager only, but not added for Intel/AMD managers. Is
>> this not a problem?
> 
> Shouldn't be. The barrier just won't be effective for these drivers, but
> that should not be a problem, because I also did not add to these
> checking bus->md in a concurrent path.
> 
> Basically the barrier here is necessary because I want to check bus->md
> in Qualcomm master interrupt handler.

I really don't have any understanding or background on what this does.

Is there actually a precedent for this? I mean, dealing with the
device/driver model is already complicated, if now we have to be careful
on when the device pointer is stored it adds a whole new element of
complexity or skillset required to understand the bus operation.

Re-looking at the code, the 'md' variable is allocated in
sdw_master_device_add(), initialized with all kinds of values, used by
device_register() so presumably when you store the value it's stored
somewhere consistent, no?

  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-20 21:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-20 10:16 [PATCH 0/6] ASoC/soundwire: qcom: correctly probe devices after link init Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-04-20 10:16 ` [PATCH 1/6] ASoC: wcd938x: switch to using gpiod API Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-04-20 11:58   ` Mark Brown
2023-04-20 12:30     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-04-20 12:32       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-04-20 13:00       ` Mark Brown
2023-04-20 14:16         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-04-20 16:28           ` Mark Brown
2023-04-20 17:51             ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-04-20 18:19               ` Mark Brown
2023-04-20 10:16 ` [PATCH 2/6] ASoC: codecs: wcd938x: Keep device in reset till bind Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-04-20 10:16 ` [PATCH 3/6] ASoC: codecs: wcd938x: Check for enumeration before using TX device Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-04-20 14:18   ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-04-20 17:19     ` Mark Brown
2023-04-20 17:57     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-04-20 18:22       ` Mark Brown
2023-04-20 10:16 ` [PATCH 4/6] soundwire: qcom: drop unused struct qcom_swrm_ctrl members Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-04-20 10:16 ` [PATCH 5/6] soudnwire: master: protect concurrecnt check for bus->md Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-04-20 16:42   ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-04-20 17:27     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-04-20 21:13       ` Pierre-Louis Bossart [this message]
2023-04-20 10:16 ` [PATCH 6/6] soundwire: qcom: do not probe devices before bus/link init Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-04-20 21:37   ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-05-01 12:24     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-05-01 13:43       ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-05-03  8:00         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-05-03 14:11           ` Pierre-Louis Bossart

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