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From: Fengguang Wu <wfg@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
To: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	John Berthels <jjberthels@gmail.com>,
	Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] maps: /proc/<pid>/pmaps interface - memory maps in granularity of pages
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 11:44:37 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <387322278.03147@ustc.edu.cn> (raw)
Message-ID: <20070817034437.GC5521@mail.ustc.edu.cn> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070817023846.GJ30556@waste.org>

On Thu, Aug 16, 2007 at 09:38:46PM -0500, Matt Mackall wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 17, 2007 at 06:05:20AM +0800, Fengguang Wu wrote:
> > Show a process's page-by-page address space infomation in /proc/<pid>/pmaps.
> > It helps to analyze applications' memory footprints in a comprehensive way.
> > 
> > Pages share the same states are grouped into a page range.
> > For each page range, the following fields are exported:
> > 	- first page index
> > 	- number of pages in the range
> > 	- well known page/pte flags
> > 	- number of mmap users
> > 
> > Only page flags not expected to disappear in the near future are exported:
> > 
> > 	Y:young R:referenced A:active U:uptodate P:ptedirty D:dirty W:writeback
> ...
> 
> > The concern of dataset size is taken care of by working in a sparse way:
> > 
> > 1) It will only generate output for resident pages, that normally is
> > much smaller than the mapped size. Take my shell for example, the
> > (size:rss) ratio is (7:1)!
> > 
> > wfg ~% cat /proc/$$/smaps |grep Size|sum
> > sum      50552.000
> > avg        777.723
> > 
> > wfg ~% cat /proc/$$/smaps |grep Rss|sum
> > sum       7604.000
> > avg        116.985
> > 
> > 2) The page range trick suppresses more output.
> > 
> > It's interesting to see that the seq_file interface demands some
> > more programming efforts, and provides such flexibility as well.
> 
> I'm so-so on this. 

Not that way! It's a good thing that people have different experiences
and hence viewpoints. Maybe the concept of PFN sharing are
straightforward to you, while I have been playing with seq_file a lot.

> On the downside:
> 
> - requires lots of parsing
> - isn't random-access
> - probably significantly slower than pagemap

That could be true.  Maybe some user with huge datasets will give us
some idea about the performance. I don't know, maybe it's application
dependent.

Anyway I don't think it's fair to merge a binary interface without the
challenge from a textual one ;)

Thank you,
Fengguang


  reply	other threads:[~2007-08-17  3:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20070816220516.782145952@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-08-16 22:05 ` [PATCH 0/4] process memory footprints in proc/<pid>/[s|p]maps Fengguang Wu
     [not found] ` <20070816220849.064901548@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-08-16 22:05   ` [PATCH 1/4] maps: PSS(proportional set size) accounting in smaps Fengguang Wu
2007-08-17  2:13   ` Matt Mackall
     [not found]     ` <20070817024443.GA5521@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-08-17  2:44       ` Fengguang Wu
     [not found] ` <20070816220849.313377588@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-08-16 22:05   ` [PATCH 3/4] maps: introduce generic_maps_open() Fengguang Wu
     [not found] ` <20070816220849.472883642@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-08-16 22:05   ` [PATCH 4/4] maps: /proc/<pid>/pmaps interface - memory maps in granularity of pages Fengguang Wu
2007-08-17  2:38   ` Matt Mackall
     [not found]     ` <20070817034437.GC5521@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-08-17  3:44       ` Fengguang Wu [this message]
2007-08-17  3:56       ` Matt Mackall
     [not found]     ` <20070817064727.GA6723@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-08-17  6:47       ` Fengguang Wu
2007-08-17 16:58       ` Matt Mackall
     [not found]         ` <20070818024831.GA7856@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-08-18  2:48           ` Fengguang Wu
2007-08-18  6:40           ` Matt Mackall
     [not found]             ` <20070818084531.GB5277@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-08-18  8:45               ` Fengguang Wu
2007-08-18 17:22               ` Matt Mackall
     [not found]                 ` <20070819004008.GA5297@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-08-19  0:40                   ` Fengguang Wu
     [not found]             ` <20070818103146.GA6744@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-08-18 10:31               ` Fengguang Wu
     [not found] ` <20070816220849.192029043@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-08-16 22:05   ` [PATCH 2/4] maps: address based vma walking Fengguang Wu
2007-08-17  2:16   ` Matt Mackall
     [not found]     ` <20070817025454.GB5521@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-08-17  2:54       ` Fengguang Wu
     [not found] <20070819075410.411207640@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
     [not found] ` <20070819075547.785390741@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-08-19  7:54   ` [PATCH 4/4] maps: /proc/<pid>/pmaps interface - memory maps in granularity of pages Fengguang Wu

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